2010年3月22日星期一
星洲千王张晓金,成功捞王陈至远, 云顶骗王林果泰.......将如何用金钱政治控制华社与大马政治........
星洲的张笑金是人渣的说法是成立的,
因为他当年和黄家丁配合进行"控制报业"(尤其控制整个中文报业及一半西马英文报业)
因为这一个人渣
让黄家丁可以在傍晚6时--6时半致电报馆
要总编辑或新闻编辑修改新闻
张笑金让中文报业丢尽了脸
这个历史事实
永远在马来西亚报业中流传!
前新闻从业人员
对张笑金这个大人渣
竟然让自己的员工被欺压
修改新闻迎合政治大人渣的胃口
只能说
张笑金是人渣中的人渣
时候到了
前报人应该站出来
抨击黄家丁扼杀新闻自由
滥用副部长之后部长的权利
欺压新闻与舆论自由
当然
为利益
千方百计释放小三王头目
自己签名放人
是最大罪大恶极的行为
之后还利用当时担任副内X的曹知雄第二度签署文件
公开释放小三王头目
简直人渣不如
曹知雄应该站出来解释
他为何释放小三王头目首领
让黑帮头目可以逍遥法外
这样的人
知法犯法
还可以出任总会长?
小三王(黄)一旦当选
华文报老总,新闻编辑
每天六点半又要等电话
接受国阵总编辑的指导
恶梦又要开始了
一个西山墓丁已经嚣张到不得了
一直在扼杀舆论自由
多一个小三王(黄)
那还得了
华文报老总,新闻编辑
又要头大
发抖中过日
痛苦的回家找发泄
(最怕力不从心)
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黄肉丁今天获得星洲千王张晓金,成功捞王陈至远, 云顶骗王林果泰.......大力支持.......他们将如何用金钱政治控制华社与大马政治........
这三个仆街是大家要关注的!
莫让他们控制我们这一代和下一代的未来!!!
中央代表们一定要反击...反击金钱政治的控制!
我们呼吁中央代表们能够由网络与布落客中获得更进一步的资料与内幕!!!!
今天是时候减少相信平面媒体的时候了!!!!也是反击人渣张晓金的时候了!!!
我们呼吁所有马来西亚人,和热爱民主自由,爱护下一代的人,都要站起来反击这些人渣,不要等到他们用手捏住你和你家人,孩子们的喉咙,无法呼吸时,才来出声!到时候,就太迟了!!!
全面反击,请不要支持一个下流,还要黑白通吃的总会长!!!!小三王事件,总会长收黑钱.....已经是公开秘密!!!
黄家定不值得支持!!!
别再让华文报被”野心勃勃政客”控制.莫让马华再成为被控制的”小猫”,让华社心声被出卖!
黄家定不值得支持
前马华总会长黄家定没有强力反对大马成为回教国,也没有反击污桶的恶行,并导致华人权益大损,……加上空白的成绩,实在应该感到羞耻!
前首相马哈迪在 1999年大选后声望下跌,就曾在 2001年 9月“宣布”马来西亚是一个伊斯兰国家,以唤回马来社群的支持!
没有反对国阵公开宣布马来西亚为回教国
当时的马华总会长林良实,爱将黄家定没有强力反对,让事件持续!!!
在2003年接任马华总会长的他,也没有对国阵,特别是巫桶将大马变成回教国提出反对!
2007年7月17日,当时的副首相纳吉(Najib Abdul Razak)抛出一记震撼弹,原来他在出席“回教国在全球化世界中的角色”国际大会后,强调伊斯兰教是官方宗教,马来西亚是一个伊斯兰国。
他说,马国从来不是世俗国,因为西方对世俗国的定义,与马国治理一个国家的伊斯兰教原则完全不同。
当时的马华总会长黄家定没有强力反对,让事件持续!!!他应该对大马成为回教国,没有反击污桶的恶行,而羞耻!
2008年6月28日宣布不再蝉联总会长,对华人社会被欺压,大马成为回教国是下”粒声不出”!
华人权益大跌导致308马华大败
他说:”我将全力以赴履行职责,为人民,华社和党作出奉献。”
这简直是一大羞辱,对华社,对他自己…因为他的成绩一片空白…..
大量安排自己的人马作国州候选人
当时的马华总会长黄家定是为了达到全面控制马华,在2008年3月8日的全国大选全面安排自己人作为国州候选人!
私心太重,与刘衍明等狼狈为奸,要达到全面控制马华.今天的东方日报评论员文章有提到刘衍明—这个在黄朱强父亲放下丁州(现在叫登州)就接下大权者,至今还想重来,要再控制马华!
刘衍明讲马华已经变得好像一笔烂账,简直就是侮辱马华!
东方日报评论专栏许万忠批评刘衍明失言---并凸显他是”幕后黑手”!
刘衍明是侮辱了所有马华党员....事实上,党争没有让马华变的一文不值.......马华部长去到那里还不是受欢迎,有人拿鸡蛋丢部长吗?没有!
马六甲MASJID TANAH那个支持黄家定的DATUK CHIN,在当地还不是很风光....威风八面.....那天看到他,威风凛凛,不知多风光,他一点都没有像刘衍明所说,马华党员见不得人,而且开会时还很风风光光,走路都有风!
刘衍明应该问自己有没有头低低???还不是名车名屋,吃大餐!!!
马华的前领袖没有低头走路,躲躲闪闪, 而党员们也没有......有像过街老鼠吗?没有......一个都没有!!!!
真的,马华党员有头低低走路吗?没有.......没有!刘衍明所在的登州有吗???有躲躲闪闪,见不得人吗?
没有!!!马华党员还是照样过日,没有躲躲闪闪,头低低,不敢见人!!!
刘衍明生搬硬套说马华已经滥到不能再滥是他无知,是他侮辱全国华人,更侮辱马华!
刘衍明是应该受到谴责!
翁诗杰,马华各区主席执委会,还有中宣局应该批判刘衍明的过分说词!!!
太过分了!为了帮黄家定而侮辱马华!!!更把马华全体党员当成傻瓜!
黄家定的胜利将是乱上加乱的开始, 作为妒贤嫉能安排自己人,排挤贤德和加上乱人刘衍明,马华更永无寜日,更多更好的人才将被迫害而无法在马有所作为!
他在308之后就没有关心国家大事,关心群众和华社! 在接受第8空间的访问时也说,他已经很久没有去看马华的新闻报道!可是第二天就急不可待地宣布要攻打马华总会长…………说为了马华!
一个已经在308之后便不关心马华进展的人,突然说为了马华…….是不是很虚伪!很假!!!
很明显, 黄家定在有机可乘下的出现是为自己,为私利!今天, 黄家定的出现很明显是为了野心,为自己,为达到私人目的!
黄家定把马华变成小猫党
马华在黄家定的年代是只能像小猫---喵喵叫,不敢哼一声……..是时候中央代表们,全力反抗马华再成为被控制的”小猫”的时候了!
他的成功将导致马华走向更悲惨的地步! 中央代表们绝对必须明白再不挺起胸膛,再变成小猫…………….再走向黄家定的”磕头”年代…….再只能向小猫喵喵叫…….马华和华人的权益将再大落,变成日落西山无转东!在黄家定的年代,华人社会失去太多了….再下去………如何对得起祖先!!!!
黄家定不值得支持
前马华总会长黄家定没有强力反对大马成为回教国,也没有反击污桶的恶行,并导致华人权益大损,……加上空白的成绩,实在应该感到羞耻!
前首相马哈迪在 1999年大选后声望下跌,就曾在 2001年 9月“宣布”马来西亚是一个伊斯兰国家,以唤回马来社群的支持!
没有反对国阵公开宣布马来西亚为回教国
当时的马华总会长林良实,爱将黄家定没有强力反对,让事件持续!!!
在2003年接任马华总会长的他,也没有对国阵,特别是巫桶将大马变成回教国提出反对!
2007年7月17日,当时的副首相纳吉(Najib Abdul Razak)抛出一记震撼弹,原来他在出席“回教国在全球化世界中的角色”国际大会后,强调伊斯兰教是官方宗教,马来西亚是一个伊斯兰国。
他说,马国从来不是世俗国,因为西方对世俗国的定义,与马国治理一个国家的伊斯兰教原则完全不同。
当时的马华总会长黄家定没有强力反对,让事件持续!!!他应该对大马成为回教国,没有反击污桶的恶行,而羞耻!
2008年6月28日宣布不再蝉联总会长,对华人社会被欺压,大马成为回教国是下”粒声不出”!
华人权益大跌导致308马华大败
他说:”我将全力以赴履行职责,为人民,华社和党作出奉献。”
这简直是一大羞辱,对华社,对他自己…因为他的成绩一片空白…..
大量安排自己的人马作国州候选人
当时的马华总会长黄家定是为了达到全面控制马华,在2008年3月8日的全国大选全面安排自己人作为国州候选人!
私心太重,与刘衍明等狼狈为奸,要达到全面控制马华.今天的东方日报评论员文章有提到刘衍明—这个在黄朱强父亲放下丁州(现在叫登州)就接下大权者,至今还想重来,要再控制马华!
刘衍明讲马华已经变得好像一笔烂账,简直就是侮辱马华!
东方日报评论专栏许万忠批评刘衍明失言---并凸显他是”幕后黑手”!
刘衍明是侮辱了所有马华党员....事实上,党争没有让马华变的一文不值.......马华部长去到那里还不是受欢迎,有人拿鸡蛋丢部长吗?没有!
马六甲MASJID TANAH那个支持黄家定的DATUK CHIN,在当地还不是很风光....威风八面.....那天看到他,威风凛凛,不知多风光,他一点都没有像刘衍明所说,马华党员见不得人,而且开会时还很风风光光,走路都有风!
刘衍明应该问自己有没有头低低???还不是名车名屋,吃大餐!!!
马华的前领袖没有低头走路,躲躲闪闪, 而党员们也没有......有像过街老鼠吗?没有......一个都没有!!!!
真的,马华党员有头低低走路吗?没有.......没有!刘衍明所在的登州有吗???有躲躲闪闪,见不得人吗?
没有!!!马华党员还是照样过日,没有躲躲闪闪,头低低,不敢见人!!!
刘衍明生搬硬套说马华已经滥到不能再滥是他无知,是他侮辱全国华人,更侮辱马华!
刘衍明是应该受到谴责!
翁诗杰,马华各区主席执委会,还有中宣局应该批判刘衍明的过分说词!!!
太过分了!为了帮黄家定而侮辱马华!!!更把马华全体党员当成傻瓜!
黄家定的胜利将是乱上加乱的开始, 作为妒贤嫉能安排自己人,排挤贤德和加上乱人刘衍明,马华更永无寜日,更多更好的人才将被迫害而无法在马有所作为!
他在308之后就没有关心国家大事,关心群众和华社! 在接受第8空间的访问时也说,他已经很久没有去看马华的新闻报道!可是第二天就急不可待地宣布要攻打马华总会长…………说为了马华!
一个已经在308之后便不关心马华进展的人,突然说为了马华…….是不是很虚伪!很假!!!
很明显, 黄家定在有机可乘下的出现是为自己,为私利!今天, 黄家定的出现很明显是为了野心,为自己,为达到私人目的!
黄家定把马华变成小猫党
马华在黄家定的年代是只能像小猫---喵喵叫,不敢哼一声……..是时候中央代表们,全力反抗马华再成为被控制的”小猫”的时候了!
他的成功将导致马华走向更悲惨的地步! 中央代表们绝对必须明白再不挺起胸膛,再变成小猫…………….再走向黄家定的”磕头”年代…….再只能向小猫喵喵叫…….马华和华人的权益将再大落,变成日落西山无转东!在黄家定的年代,华人社会失去太多了….再下去………如何对得起祖先!!!!
2010年3月18日星期四
世華媒體狂捧 網絡媒體狂轟 张晓卿独霸大马华文报业和黄家定的陰陽臉
今天的星洲日报,中国报大事专访"出山"的黄家定,把他讲得"天上有,地下无",也让全球的人看清了张先生的真面目!
正如以下文章所说;
Wednesday, March 17, 2010
世華媒體狂捧 網絡媒體狂轟 家定的陰陽臉
黄家定复出,最希望他重当总会长的世华媒体,特别是星洲日报给黄家定的报导和评论,一面倒力捧,以倒翁灭蔡;但是许多不满或批评黄家定的言论和声音,完全在世华媒体消音。
世华媒体和张晓卿独霸大马华文报业,也主导舆论,他们要给黄家定塑造零反对声音,因此,只要不利黄家定的评论,几乎绝迹星洲日报。
这些不满的声音,只能通过网络媒体,特别是被当成「网上马新社」的当今大马,以及部落格上发表文章,才算有了突破口。
浏览大多数的政治部落格,竟然一面倒反对黄家定再战江湖,口诛笔伐之声,不绝于耳。
这些声音,难以在平面媒体见报,要为蔡细历或翁诗杰说一句话,几乎找不到突破口。
无论如何,网络媒体的崛起,总算可以突破星洲日报及世华媒体的围堵。
而当今大马在前天更破格的用读者投函作为新闻,显著的刊出数名不满黄家定声音的文章。
接下来,南洋商报也会在明天刊登专访.....
安排的太好了!!!!
张先生!!!!!!
正如以下文章所说;
Wednesday, March 17, 2010
世華媒體狂捧 網絡媒體狂轟 家定的陰陽臉
黄家定复出,最希望他重当总会长的世华媒体,特别是星洲日报给黄家定的报导和评论,一面倒力捧,以倒翁灭蔡;但是许多不满或批评黄家定的言论和声音,完全在世华媒体消音。
世华媒体和张晓卿独霸大马华文报业,也主导舆论,他们要给黄家定塑造零反对声音,因此,只要不利黄家定的评论,几乎绝迹星洲日报。
这些不满的声音,只能通过网络媒体,特别是被当成「网上马新社」的当今大马,以及部落格上发表文章,才算有了突破口。
浏览大多数的政治部落格,竟然一面倒反对黄家定再战江湖,口诛笔伐之声,不绝于耳。
这些声音,难以在平面媒体见报,要为蔡细历或翁诗杰说一句话,几乎找不到突破口。
无论如何,网络媒体的崛起,总算可以突破星洲日报及世华媒体的围堵。
而当今大马在前天更破格的用读者投函作为新闻,显著的刊出数名不满黄家定声音的文章。
接下来,南洋商报也会在明天刊登专访.....
安排的太好了!!!!
张先生!!!!!!
前马华总会长黄家定没有强力反对大马成为回教国,也没有反击污桶的恶行,并导致华人权益大损,……加上空白的成绩,实在应该感到羞耻!
前马华总会长黄家定没有强力反对大马成为回教国,也没有反击污桶的恶行,并导致华人权益大损,……加上空白的成绩,实在应该感到羞耻!
前首相马哈迪在 1999年大选后声望下跌,就曾在 2001年 9月“宣布”马来西亚是一个伊斯兰国家,以唤回马来社群的支持!
当时的马华总会长林良实,爱将黄家定没有强力反对,让事件持续!!!
在2003年接任马华总会长的黄家定,也没有对国阵,特别是巫桶将大马变成回教国提出反对!
2007年7月17日,当时的副首相纳吉(Najib Abdul Razak)抛出一记震撼弹,原来他在出席“回教国在全球化世界中的角色”国际大会后,强调伊斯兰教是官方宗教,马来西亚是一个伊斯兰国。他说,马国从来不是世俗国,因为西方对世俗国的定义,与马国治理一个国家的伊斯兰教原则完全不同。
当时的马华总会长黄家定没有强力反对,让事件持续!!!他应该对大马成为回教国,没有反击污桶的恶行,而羞耻!
2008年6月28日宣布不再蝉联总会长,对华人社会被欺压,大马成为回教国是”粒声不出”!
今天的他说:”我将全力以赴履行职责,为人民,华社和党作出奉献。”
这简直是一大羞辱,对华社,对他自己…因为他的成绩一片空白…
另一方面,vincent tan这个仆街应该受到谴责,因为他涉及控制华社,操控党选!
前首相马哈迪在 1999年大选后声望下跌,就曾在 2001年 9月“宣布”马来西亚是一个伊斯兰国家,以唤回马来社群的支持!
当时的马华总会长林良实,爱将黄家定没有强力反对,让事件持续!!!
在2003年接任马华总会长的黄家定,也没有对国阵,特别是巫桶将大马变成回教国提出反对!
2007年7月17日,当时的副首相纳吉(Najib Abdul Razak)抛出一记震撼弹,原来他在出席“回教国在全球化世界中的角色”国际大会后,强调伊斯兰教是官方宗教,马来西亚是一个伊斯兰国。他说,马国从来不是世俗国,因为西方对世俗国的定义,与马国治理一个国家的伊斯兰教原则完全不同。
当时的马华总会长黄家定没有强力反对,让事件持续!!!他应该对大马成为回教国,没有反击污桶的恶行,而羞耻!
2008年6月28日宣布不再蝉联总会长,对华人社会被欺压,大马成为回教国是”粒声不出”!
今天的他说:”我将全力以赴履行职责,为人民,华社和党作出奉献。”
这简直是一大羞辱,对华社,对他自己…因为他的成绩一片空白…
另一方面,vincent tan这个仆街应该受到谴责,因为他涉及控制华社,操控党选!
2010年3月2日星期二
人联,民政,马华领导班子将需要向非回教徒列祖列宗下跪,为他们将国家变成回教国向当年支持独立维持世俗国的祖先,我们大家的爷爷奶奶,家人作出解释..作出永恒的道歉.
作为这一辈人,我们最为惊讶的是--国家在忽然间变成了回教国!
到今天为止,我们都很难接受,为何忽然间,一个世俗国会成为回教国???
2007年7月17日,当时的副首相纳吉(Najib Abdul Razak)抛出一记震撼弹,原来他在出席“回教国在全球化世界中的角色”国际大会后,强调伊斯兰教是官方宗教,马来西亚是一个伊斯兰国。
他说,马国从来不是世俗国,因为西方对世俗国的定义,与马国治理一个国家的伊斯兰教原则完全不同。不过他声明这“不表示我们不尊重非穆斯林,穆斯林与非穆斯林都享有本身的权益。"
纳吉的宣布马上令在野党和民间组织对这项谈话立即驳斥,国会反对党领袖林吉祥认为,纳吉是单方面、独断及违宪地,诠释在独立初期由各族共同协议的建国基本原则。
执政联盟内的华人政党马华公会(MCA)也反对此说,认为制宪的历史文献都证明,马来西亚是一个世俗国。
但是,国内安全部已向所有主流报章发出禁令,即日起不可再报道相关的新闻。
在90年代,巫统在多州州议会通过回教刑事法,国阵成员党,如人联,马华,民政都无法阻止,最后也磕头乖乖支持!!!
回教国的宣布....国阵成员党,如人联,马华,民政都无法阻止,最后也磕头乖乖支持!!!
马来西亚政体采君主立宪制,独立以来都实行西敏寺式的议会民主制度,各种行政与司法准则,多参照英国模式。伊斯兰国之说,并无宪制基础,否则现行不少政治、经济、司法甚至社会运作都要受到伊斯兰化冲击。
前首相马哈迪在 1999年大选后声望下跌,就曾在 2001年 9月“宣布”马来西亚是一个伊斯兰国家,以唤回马来社群的支持。
当时的人联刘贤正,陈华贵,马华林良实,黄家定,刘衍明,黄燕燕,何启文,马汉顺,杜振耀,陈清凉,郑修强,陈书北,陈国煌,魏家祥,何国忠,王乃志,江作汉...民政许子根,林敬益,郭诛镇,马袖强,陈莲花...都没有反对,国大党的沙米维鲁也没有反对!!
国阵成员党的领袖,中委应该向全体非回教徒的祖先,这一代人民下跪,为他们将国家出卖变成回教国作出永无休止的道歉!!!
历史将把他们的恶行记录,他们确实让祖先蒙羞,让这一代人羞愧,更无脸,无颜面对下一代!
历史的罪人....永恒的痛苦回忆!
国阵让这一代人面对悲痛,把下一代的权益断送了!今天,大家活在悲痛,无助....非穆斯林社群日益担忧已经到了永无休止的地步!!!
国阵操弄伊斯兰国课题,纳吉高调重申此一说法,很可能与他陷入一宗蒙古女郎谋杀案和军购丑闻有关,试图以宗教炒作转移视线。讽刺的是,纳吉出身官僚世家,从来就不是党内热衷伊斯兰教的人物。
人联,民政,马华领导班子将需要向非回教徒列祖列宗下跪,为他们将国家变成回教国向当年支持独立维持世俗国的祖先,我们大家的爷爷奶奶,家人作出解释......作出永恒的道歉....
此外,补救工作必须进行.....这包括:
收集资料证明马国是世俗国!!!新加坡应该修宪法,将世俗国列入宪法,修宪需要95%人民同意!!!
在英国的朋友们,也请努力......
我一直期望当年英国方面,澳大利亚方面有参与MALAYSIA马国独立的官员,研究人员,提供更多资料证明当年的独立并未同意将马国变成回教国!!!
希望在英国的人民可以到图书馆,查有关独立方面的协议书!甚至访问当年参与独立工作的官员,宪法是不是说明马国是世俗国!!!
这是我们这一代永远的悲痛.....愧对下一代.......愧对祖先!!!!
卖国匪把国家卖了!!!!
这是我们这一代永恒的悲痛,永远的痛!!!!!!!!!!!
到今天为止,我们都很难接受,为何忽然间,一个世俗国会成为回教国???
2007年7月17日,当时的副首相纳吉(Najib Abdul Razak)抛出一记震撼弹,原来他在出席“回教国在全球化世界中的角色”国际大会后,强调伊斯兰教是官方宗教,马来西亚是一个伊斯兰国。
他说,马国从来不是世俗国,因为西方对世俗国的定义,与马国治理一个国家的伊斯兰教原则完全不同。不过他声明这“不表示我们不尊重非穆斯林,穆斯林与非穆斯林都享有本身的权益。"
纳吉的宣布马上令在野党和民间组织对这项谈话立即驳斥,国会反对党领袖林吉祥认为,纳吉是单方面、独断及违宪地,诠释在独立初期由各族共同协议的建国基本原则。
执政联盟内的华人政党马华公会(MCA)也反对此说,认为制宪的历史文献都证明,马来西亚是一个世俗国。
但是,国内安全部已向所有主流报章发出禁令,即日起不可再报道相关的新闻。
在90年代,巫统在多州州议会通过回教刑事法,国阵成员党,如人联,马华,民政都无法阻止,最后也磕头乖乖支持!!!
回教国的宣布....国阵成员党,如人联,马华,民政都无法阻止,最后也磕头乖乖支持!!!
马来西亚政体采君主立宪制,独立以来都实行西敏寺式的议会民主制度,各种行政与司法准则,多参照英国模式。伊斯兰国之说,并无宪制基础,否则现行不少政治、经济、司法甚至社会运作都要受到伊斯兰化冲击。
前首相马哈迪在 1999年大选后声望下跌,就曾在 2001年 9月“宣布”马来西亚是一个伊斯兰国家,以唤回马来社群的支持。
当时的人联刘贤正,陈华贵,马华林良实,黄家定,刘衍明,黄燕燕,何启文,马汉顺,杜振耀,陈清凉,郑修强,陈书北,陈国煌,魏家祥,何国忠,王乃志,江作汉...民政许子根,林敬益,郭诛镇,马袖强,陈莲花...都没有反对,国大党的沙米维鲁也没有反对!!
国阵成员党的领袖,中委应该向全体非回教徒的祖先,这一代人民下跪,为他们将国家出卖变成回教国作出永无休止的道歉!!!
历史将把他们的恶行记录,他们确实让祖先蒙羞,让这一代人羞愧,更无脸,无颜面对下一代!
历史的罪人....永恒的痛苦回忆!
国阵让这一代人面对悲痛,把下一代的权益断送了!今天,大家活在悲痛,无助....非穆斯林社群日益担忧已经到了永无休止的地步!!!
国阵操弄伊斯兰国课题,纳吉高调重申此一说法,很可能与他陷入一宗蒙古女郎谋杀案和军购丑闻有关,试图以宗教炒作转移视线。讽刺的是,纳吉出身官僚世家,从来就不是党内热衷伊斯兰教的人物。
人联,民政,马华领导班子将需要向非回教徒列祖列宗下跪,为他们将国家变成回教国向当年支持独立维持世俗国的祖先,我们大家的爷爷奶奶,家人作出解释......作出永恒的道歉....
此外,补救工作必须进行.....这包括:
收集资料证明马国是世俗国!!!新加坡应该修宪法,将世俗国列入宪法,修宪需要95%人民同意!!!
在英国的朋友们,也请努力......
我一直期望当年英国方面,澳大利亚方面有参与MALAYSIA马国独立的官员,研究人员,提供更多资料证明当年的独立并未同意将马国变成回教国!!!
希望在英国的人民可以到图书馆,查有关独立方面的协议书!甚至访问当年参与独立工作的官员,宪法是不是说明马国是世俗国!!!
这是我们这一代永远的悲痛.....愧对下一代.......愧对祖先!!!!
卖国匪把国家卖了!!!!
这是我们这一代永恒的悲痛,永远的痛!!!!!!!!!!!
南洋全版广告一看就知道是.........与黑.....有关
南洋全版广告一看就知道是.........与黑.....有关
2010年3月3日刊登在南洋全版彩色照片广告一看就知道是.........与黑.....有关
警方应该采取行动,对付这些黑......黑社会无法无天到刊登这些广告,也很嚣张!
这个黑帮包括新加坡.....两地黑帮大结合???
新加坡黑帮与本地黑帮配合,是对社会不利,对地方治安不利!
这是什么帮?
警方应该全面逮捕涉及者,包括刊登广告者!
应该是全面扫荡全国黑帮的时候了!有关者应该马上被逮捕,而且是很坏的做法!报业人士涉及与黑帮广告很不应该!
SINGAPORE POLICE SHALL SEND SOME MORE DETECTIVES/CID TO CHECK THIS GANG, TAKE VIDEO AND FIND OUT WHO ARE THEY....
WHERE IS THE BRANCH IN SINGAPORE??? HOW THEY CONTACT?
WHAT BUSINESS DOES THIS GENG INVOLVES?
WHO ARE THOSE REPRESENTATIVES IN SINGAPORE?
报章不应该再刊登这些挂羊头的黑帮广告!张老板,不要丢脸啦!!!
张老板,睁开眼睛看,不要让黑帮广告再出现!!!
这些钱是黑心钱,不能要......害了多少人的黑钱,绝对不要贪!!!
黑帮必须被逮捕........太多事件说明当局需要对柔佛州黑帮进行全面扫荡与大逮捕!作为人民,我们不要黑帮无法无天!
我们不能再容忍黑帮无法无天,张老板,你要对得起良心!
黑帮钱是PU KAI仆街钱,满手血腥,害人害物!!!!
看得太多了,黑帮与警方之间的"来往"....是问题!!!RESPECT IS EARNED, ASK YOURSELF FIRST....HOW MUCH YOU RECEIVED MONTHLY.........HOW YOU GET RICH WITH BLACK MONEY!!!
也应该是全面停止的时候了!!不全面逮捕黑帮,问题变成难题......永远成为社会的毒害!!!
2010年3月3日刊登在南洋全版彩色照片广告一看就知道是.........与黑.....有关
警方应该采取行动,对付这些黑......黑社会无法无天到刊登这些广告,也很嚣张!
这个黑帮包括新加坡.....两地黑帮大结合???
新加坡黑帮与本地黑帮配合,是对社会不利,对地方治安不利!
这是什么帮?
警方应该全面逮捕涉及者,包括刊登广告者!
应该是全面扫荡全国黑帮的时候了!有关者应该马上被逮捕,而且是很坏的做法!报业人士涉及与黑帮广告很不应该!
SINGAPORE POLICE SHALL SEND SOME MORE DETECTIVES/CID TO CHECK THIS GANG, TAKE VIDEO AND FIND OUT WHO ARE THEY....
WHERE IS THE BRANCH IN SINGAPORE??? HOW THEY CONTACT?
WHAT BUSINESS DOES THIS GENG INVOLVES?
WHO ARE THOSE REPRESENTATIVES IN SINGAPORE?
报章不应该再刊登这些挂羊头的黑帮广告!张老板,不要丢脸啦!!!
张老板,睁开眼睛看,不要让黑帮广告再出现!!!
这些钱是黑心钱,不能要......害了多少人的黑钱,绝对不要贪!!!
黑帮必须被逮捕........太多事件说明当局需要对柔佛州黑帮进行全面扫荡与大逮捕!作为人民,我们不要黑帮无法无天!
我们不能再容忍黑帮无法无天,张老板,你要对得起良心!
黑帮钱是PU KAI仆街钱,满手血腥,害人害物!!!!
看得太多了,黑帮与警方之间的"来往"....是问题!!!RESPECT IS EARNED, ASK YOURSELF FIRST....HOW MUCH YOU RECEIVED MONTHLY.........HOW YOU GET RICH WITH BLACK MONEY!!!
也应该是全面停止的时候了!!不全面逮捕黑帮,问题变成难题......永远成为社会的毒害!!!
2010年2月21日星期日
新春团拜是你家的注册专利吗?污桶的专利!!!MALAYSIA HAS BEEN UMNONIZATION SINCE 1957!
请问纳吉先生,新春团拜是你家的注册专利吗?
不然为何你会在台上批评雪州民联在东禅寺办团拜是和你“打对台”?
你的“一个马来西亚”难道只容得下“一个新春团拜”?
你三番四次自称欣赏中华文化,儿子也在学着华文,请问你有听过我们华人的一句千古名言“宰相肚里能撑船”吗?
您虽贵为一国之相,可是您的肚量撑得下一艘舢板吗?
Posted by 凌国文 at 6:05 PM
Labels: 鹿马难辨
6 comments:
thepplway求真 said...
一个大马应该重新认识“人民学”
February 21, 2010 8:55 PM
山城大熊 said...
开工大吉。
February 21, 2010 9:57 PM
失败のman said...
一开工就问候他爸爸了。哈哈
February 22, 2010 2:17 AM
黄俊源 said...
他的肚子装得下..
战机引擎..
也装得下..
蒙古女郎的尸体..
还装得下..
巫统报章的破坏言论..
February 22, 2010 2:31 AM
Anonymous said...
好耶!国文!
真想给你个开工大红包!
安地
http://lengkekmun.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post_1723.html
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Sunday, 21 February 2010
民怨沖天, 天為之慟
大家都搞團拜, 偏偏民聯拜訪的東禪寺天氣晴朗, 而跺一跺腳老婆就怕的首相所拜訪的班丹馬蘭就突然豪雨連綿.
在這炎熱的春節? 不是鼓吹迷信, 我覺得那是天意, 是自然界定律的顯現.
一個政權即將滅亡是有徵兆的. 回顧我們過去一年自從那雞上台來所發生的事情, 大馬只可以用亂世來形容, 從來沒有一個首相的第一年是如此不堪的.
國陣的確是氣數已盡. 連天也不幫它了.
那吉還好意思說那是 ‘旺’雨. ‘旺’? 哈? 怎麼學華人了, 什麼都用 ‘旺’來自我安慰. 東西跌破了就 ‘落地開花’, 嬰兒大便在身上就 ‘屎為財’. 現在團拜被雨淋就是 ‘旺’?
當天晚上和貓婆波波一干人等在火箭餐廳撈生, 本來熱得春袋也會變蒸熟蛋的天氣, 在波波開始說明福的case時就下起雨來, 而且是狂風暴雨.
現在想起, 這雨是冤氣和怨氣所聚啊. 裡面有民怨民憤, 有趙明福, 有古甘, 有人民失去司法保護的憤怒. 它過後就吹向班丹馬蘭, 把首相掃得狼狽. 偏偏東禪寺就不下. 吹咩?
我們首相一開口, 水平就露了出來, 貴為首相, 竟然說民聯的團拜和他的打對台! 傻海, 團拜不是拜你老母, 一個人拜不完的, 你有你拜, 他有他拜, 你的顧問團沒教你怎麼說話?
人民現在已經完全暴露在暴力之下, 司法已經完全失去了公信力, 我們都知道華叔最後會輸, 我們都知道明福的冤究竟難伸. 一個案件還沒審訊人民就猜到結果的國家, 老天爺明鑑: 你說當權者有多狂? 民怨有多重?
還窩在國陣的有志之士, 回頭吧. 如果你是明福, 你死得甘心嗎? 如果你還有那一丁點良心的話. 就算你什麼都沒做, 身在國陣也是助紂為虐.
天, 怎麼不打雷閃電, 把這群狗日的劈死?
Posted by Botak at 14:26 18 comments
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鱼米之乡 said...
老天有眼,不把他们劈死;就为了让人民有机会在下届大选把他们气死。
21 February 2010 14:44
大米 said...
冷静冷静。。。。
不过我老公也讲那边下大雨是报应咧。我们在JENJAROM几天气晴朗人山人海,而且雪州政府的团拜就是团拜,没有任何政治show,只是很纯粹的新年气氛,让出席的公众都感觉很自在,这点很让我欣赏!
21 February 2010 14:44
leejiajia said...
一边狂风暴雨,一边晴空万里,当我读了新闻后,心中一阵凉意啊!
这雨下的及时啊!应该还有飞霜!
21 February 2010 14:47
Tay said...
BEST !!! You speak out all I can think of .
Good Job
21 February 2010 14:57
Fair仔 said...
哈哈!大伙儿心里还真的是这样想的!
21 February 2010 15:10
Botak said...
魚米佬: 好像有些道理...嗯...不過, 我還是希望儘快將他們劈死. 誰知道會不會有大選?
大米: 我們都很冷靜啊. 人命關天, 有血性的都坐不住了.
離家家: 飛霜在肥仔的家啦, 只是給肥仔和肥婆看的.
TAY: Thanks.
FAIR仔: 其實當晚講明福時是有些怪事的. 去看波波的留言版.
21 February 2010 15:14
Anonymous said...
大快人心!
绿草
21 February 2010 15:40
Anonymous said...
叶兄
那些狗屎不会听人话的,它们那有良心??!!
它们知道民怨??呸!!!它们知道民愤??呸!!!
它们只知道权力贪污而已。。
唉。。。我们的国家还有未来吗??
废人
21 February 2010 16:19
西域廢人 said...
光頭兄果然是“憤怒中年”,年慶還未過完就發飈了。
人在做,天在看。天網恢恢,疏而不漏,無論哪只雞都逃不過因果循環。
西域廢人
P/S:世道也太差了,怎麼又多了一個廢人(樓上的)。
21 February 2010 17:58
失败のman said...
他还以为团拜是他们的专利。
哈哈,想必这是他那个狮子头的老婆教他这么说的。
21 February 2010 18:36
Anonymous said...
botak,小心人不地人,鬼不地鬼的公羽走狗找你霉气,他才saw那鸡的烂八saw到爽,你就来泼冷水.
善好善报,恶有恶报,不是不报,时辰未到.
各位!等着這一天!看看那些走狗败类的下场吧
21 February 2010 18:56
CHIA, Chin Yau said...
鱼米:老天没眼!劈死了我们就可以放假咯
21 February 2010 20:21
人生不过如此-沈兴 said...
乌云盖地,是不祥的前兆,国阵天要收了,有因必有果。恶有恶果,报应始终要来,国阵,慢慢的消受吧!
21 February 2010 23:29
anakmalaysia said...
No matter how Heaven punish them now or in the future but i swear , i gonna kick their ass in the coming GE, that for sure.
22 February 2010 00:06
· 康华 · said...
国之将亡,必有征兆!
22 February 2010 00:24
Cinn said...
還窩在國陣的有志之士, 怎可能会回頭呢!
要是他们还有良心的话,就不会在自家和自己人斗了。
他们连自家人都可以杀个你死我活,他们的良心哪还有得剩呢?
哎! 这年头的人都已被利益两字给冲昏了脑袋,良心已经不值几个钱了。有钱有势就有爹娘,没钱采你都傻。
别说我狗嘴,要是他朝一日民联真的执政的话,准有一大堆的“国阵有志之士“(或者叫青蛙使者比较好)马上表演他们拿手的好戏~~跳远。从国阵跳,跳,跳,跳到民联去,然后又假情假意的表演大义灭亲,大把口水的数国阵的不好了。
咱们就等着瞧吧。
Cinnamon
22 February 2010 00:30
Anonymous said...
"國陣的確是氣數已盡. 連天也不幫它了."
大快人心的一場雨! 難道, 在我有生之年, 真的三生有幸能看到國陣倒台的一天?
花旗國大馬華人
22 February 2010 00:46
Botak said...
綠草: 怎麼快? 那些傢伙還在…
廢人二號: 還是有些人聽得懂的. 他們應該知道天意難違.
原裝廢人: 我們不能等因果, 人民現在的反應就是他們的報應.
蜘蛛人: 他的老婆不時在替他鬧笑話, 如果他真聽就糟糕了.
無名: 不用等他的鷹犬, 我們的華人都有說出: 首相來訪如中頭獎這樣不要臉的話.
白頭: 我在想, 那雷電不是很不得空?
沈興: 對啊, 是很邪. 不到你不信.
ANAKMALAYSIA: we must make sure there is a ‘next election’.
康華: 大吉利是. 是政府將亡…國還在.
CINN: 我最擔心的倒不是國陣的人跳槽. 而是民聯上台後仍舊有些零散的馬來主義者示威搞破壞. 執政中央後, 官僚還是舊人啊.
花旗國同胞: 我想, 倒台, 不一定經過選舉, 如果沒有選舉的話….
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
新春团拜是你家的注册专利吗?
是污桶的专利!!!
只有污桶可以用,其他人民不可,
那种嘴脸由1957年开始,到了1969年513事件后,纳鸡父亲拉渣RAZAK上台后,更严重,也越来越多,越来越大....到今天已经是无可救药!!!
那是污桶化马来西亚----MALAYSIA HAS BEEN UMNONIZATION SINCE 1957!
NOW IS THE TIME TO SAY NO, TO KICK OFF THIS KIND OF MINDSET, NO MORE UMNONIZATION IN MALAYSIA, ESPECIALLY IN SABAH AND SARAWAK!
有心人可以写一本论文或大家合力出版发行论文集,谈国家已经被污桶化!!!国家,官方行政全被污桶化,连警方办事也看ATAS,其他教育,大学,合作社等也已经是被污桶化.......一切以污桶为首,唯命是从......这是马国的最大悲哀......
只有全面改变,才有希望!唯一出路----推翻国阵!!!
今年应该放全力谈论与分析"污桶化"之恐怖与悲哀!!!当然包括马华,民政,人联等的边缘化及变成"傀儡"!!!!
马华在国阵里头“当家不当权”:
*《马来西亚华团大选诉求》被逼收回
1999年全国大选的来临,由2千多个华团连署提出《马来西亚华团大选诉求》,内容涵盖政治、经济、文化、教育及社会各领域。大选前国阵接受诉求,大选后却不认账,反指责诉求工委会是共产党。200名巫青团员甚至在雪兰莪中华大会堂示威,抗议华团诉求工委会。
马华的回应:
马华的领袖在当时不但没有给予华团支援,反而落井下石。林良实更促华团诉求工委会收回部分诉求。
*干捞事件
翁诗杰在9月8日提出柔佛州麻属武吉哈逢(Bukit Kepong)华小所得教育部拨款“三万变三千”、“拨款半途遭人‘干捞’”言论,引来教育部长希山慕丁暴跳如雷。副首相纳吉对媒体说,内阁训诫翁诗杰不可越权。
马华的回应:
当时并不见任何马华领袖对教育部长希山慕丁的暴跳如雷和副首相纳吉的内阁训诫,提出反对或抗议, 辩护或追查该事件。更可笑的是当时的高教部长墓屎达化还代老翁道歉,要求希山原谅老翁无知!!!这就是污桶化国家行政与马华等国阵成员党矮化,成为傀儡的明证!老翁被污桶上司"鸟",成为狗熊,但在华人社会又当英雄....很变态的社会,很扭曲人性的国家和社会....
*新经济政策
该政策下的受惠者仅仅是极少数的巫统领袖,广大的马来人及原住民众并没有得到实惠,更遑论其他族群。新经济政策所导致的贫富差距和族群不和。
马华的回应:
至今仍不见任何马华领袖挺身反对新经济政策。
反观,人民公正党提出新经济议程,不根据种族来分配财富,而是根据需要来进行扶弱政策,并强调透明的政府和人民的全权参与。
*华教拨款和华小数量仍然严重不足
2005年3月10 日,马华领袖要求增建华小。4天以后,阿都拉发表“增建华小不利国民团结”论。马华公会领袖近来在争取华社支持的政治论述中,无不强调以更大的“支持力量”换取更大的“代表权”。然而从1995年、1999年到2004年的大选,马华公会获得华社前所未有的寄托,最终的结果却是增建180所小学中,华小只得一所,马华公会领袖的论述因而不攻自破。华小每年才拿到 2% 的发展拨款,国小却可以拿到96%。政府一年增建至少50间国小,增建1间新华小这样困难却需要花上数年时间。
马华的回应:
马华领袖不曾提出“政府须像增建国小一样,制度化地增建华小”。在2008年308大选大败后,马华开始在华文报章提出要制度化,但是污桶,马来报当你吹BB!
*九名非回教徒部长收回提呈给首相的备忘录
在马华总会找黄家定的领导下,9名非回教徒部长提呈备忘录给首相阿都拉。然而,阿都拉没看,这些非巫统部长更被视为挑战首相的权威。
马华的回应:
最终该九名非巫统的部长,包括马华部长被逼收回备忘录。
太多事件证明,国阵是导致国家沦落,人民受迫害的祸根,祸首!
不然为何你会在台上批评雪州民联在东禅寺办团拜是和你“打对台”?
你的“一个马来西亚”难道只容得下“一个新春团拜”?
你三番四次自称欣赏中华文化,儿子也在学着华文,请问你有听过我们华人的一句千古名言“宰相肚里能撑船”吗?
您虽贵为一国之相,可是您的肚量撑得下一艘舢板吗?
Posted by 凌国文 at 6:05 PM
Labels: 鹿马难辨
6 comments:
thepplway求真 said...
一个大马应该重新认识“人民学”
February 21, 2010 8:55 PM
山城大熊 said...
开工大吉。
February 21, 2010 9:57 PM
失败のman said...
一开工就问候他爸爸了。哈哈
February 22, 2010 2:17 AM
黄俊源 said...
他的肚子装得下..
战机引擎..
也装得下..
蒙古女郎的尸体..
还装得下..
巫统报章的破坏言论..
February 22, 2010 2:31 AM
Anonymous said...
好耶!国文!
真想给你个开工大红包!
安地
http://lengkekmun.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post_1723.html
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Sunday, 21 February 2010
民怨沖天, 天為之慟
大家都搞團拜, 偏偏民聯拜訪的東禪寺天氣晴朗, 而跺一跺腳老婆就怕的首相所拜訪的班丹馬蘭就突然豪雨連綿.
在這炎熱的春節? 不是鼓吹迷信, 我覺得那是天意, 是自然界定律的顯現.
一個政權即將滅亡是有徵兆的. 回顧我們過去一年自從那雞上台來所發生的事情, 大馬只可以用亂世來形容, 從來沒有一個首相的第一年是如此不堪的.
國陣的確是氣數已盡. 連天也不幫它了.
那吉還好意思說那是 ‘旺’雨. ‘旺’? 哈? 怎麼學華人了, 什麼都用 ‘旺’來自我安慰. 東西跌破了就 ‘落地開花’, 嬰兒大便在身上就 ‘屎為財’. 現在團拜被雨淋就是 ‘旺’?
當天晚上和貓婆波波一干人等在火箭餐廳撈生, 本來熱得春袋也會變蒸熟蛋的天氣, 在波波開始說明福的case時就下起雨來, 而且是狂風暴雨.
現在想起, 這雨是冤氣和怨氣所聚啊. 裡面有民怨民憤, 有趙明福, 有古甘, 有人民失去司法保護的憤怒. 它過後就吹向班丹馬蘭, 把首相掃得狼狽. 偏偏東禪寺就不下. 吹咩?
我們首相一開口, 水平就露了出來, 貴為首相, 竟然說民聯的團拜和他的打對台! 傻海, 團拜不是拜你老母, 一個人拜不完的, 你有你拜, 他有他拜, 你的顧問團沒教你怎麼說話?
人民現在已經完全暴露在暴力之下, 司法已經完全失去了公信力, 我們都知道華叔最後會輸, 我們都知道明福的冤究竟難伸. 一個案件還沒審訊人民就猜到結果的國家, 老天爺明鑑: 你說當權者有多狂? 民怨有多重?
還窩在國陣的有志之士, 回頭吧. 如果你是明福, 你死得甘心嗎? 如果你還有那一丁點良心的話. 就算你什麼都沒做, 身在國陣也是助紂為虐.
天, 怎麼不打雷閃電, 把這群狗日的劈死?
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鱼米之乡 said...
老天有眼,不把他们劈死;就为了让人民有机会在下届大选把他们气死。
21 February 2010 14:44
大米 said...
冷静冷静。。。。
不过我老公也讲那边下大雨是报应咧。我们在JENJAROM几天气晴朗人山人海,而且雪州政府的团拜就是团拜,没有任何政治show,只是很纯粹的新年气氛,让出席的公众都感觉很自在,这点很让我欣赏!
21 February 2010 14:44
leejiajia said...
一边狂风暴雨,一边晴空万里,当我读了新闻后,心中一阵凉意啊!
这雨下的及时啊!应该还有飞霜!
21 February 2010 14:47
Tay said...
BEST !!! You speak out all I can think of .
Good Job
21 February 2010 14:57
Fair仔 said...
哈哈!大伙儿心里还真的是这样想的!
21 February 2010 15:10
Botak said...
魚米佬: 好像有些道理...嗯...不過, 我還是希望儘快將他們劈死. 誰知道會不會有大選?
大米: 我們都很冷靜啊. 人命關天, 有血性的都坐不住了.
離家家: 飛霜在肥仔的家啦, 只是給肥仔和肥婆看的.
TAY: Thanks.
FAIR仔: 其實當晚講明福時是有些怪事的. 去看波波的留言版.
21 February 2010 15:14
Anonymous said...
大快人心!
绿草
21 February 2010 15:40
Anonymous said...
叶兄
那些狗屎不会听人话的,它们那有良心??!!
它们知道民怨??呸!!!它们知道民愤??呸!!!
它们只知道权力贪污而已。。
唉。。。我们的国家还有未来吗??
废人
21 February 2010 16:19
西域廢人 said...
光頭兄果然是“憤怒中年”,年慶還未過完就發飈了。
人在做,天在看。天網恢恢,疏而不漏,無論哪只雞都逃不過因果循環。
西域廢人
P/S:世道也太差了,怎麼又多了一個廢人(樓上的)。
21 February 2010 17:58
失败のman said...
他还以为团拜是他们的专利。
哈哈,想必这是他那个狮子头的老婆教他这么说的。
21 February 2010 18:36
Anonymous said...
botak,小心人不地人,鬼不地鬼的公羽走狗找你霉气,他才saw那鸡的烂八saw到爽,你就来泼冷水.
善好善报,恶有恶报,不是不报,时辰未到.
各位!等着這一天!看看那些走狗败类的下场吧
21 February 2010 18:56
CHIA, Chin Yau said...
鱼米:老天没眼!劈死了我们就可以放假咯
21 February 2010 20:21
人生不过如此-沈兴 said...
乌云盖地,是不祥的前兆,国阵天要收了,有因必有果。恶有恶果,报应始终要来,国阵,慢慢的消受吧!
21 February 2010 23:29
anakmalaysia said...
No matter how Heaven punish them now or in the future but i swear , i gonna kick their ass in the coming GE, that for sure.
22 February 2010 00:06
· 康华 · said...
国之将亡,必有征兆!
22 February 2010 00:24
Cinn said...
還窩在國陣的有志之士, 怎可能会回頭呢!
要是他们还有良心的话,就不会在自家和自己人斗了。
他们连自家人都可以杀个你死我活,他们的良心哪还有得剩呢?
哎! 这年头的人都已被利益两字给冲昏了脑袋,良心已经不值几个钱了。有钱有势就有爹娘,没钱采你都傻。
别说我狗嘴,要是他朝一日民联真的执政的话,准有一大堆的“国阵有志之士“(或者叫青蛙使者比较好)马上表演他们拿手的好戏~~跳远。从国阵跳,跳,跳,跳到民联去,然后又假情假意的表演大义灭亲,大把口水的数国阵的不好了。
咱们就等着瞧吧。
Cinnamon
22 February 2010 00:30
Anonymous said...
"國陣的確是氣數已盡. 連天也不幫它了."
大快人心的一場雨! 難道, 在我有生之年, 真的三生有幸能看到國陣倒台的一天?
花旗國大馬華人
22 February 2010 00:46
Botak said...
綠草: 怎麼快? 那些傢伙還在…
廢人二號: 還是有些人聽得懂的. 他們應該知道天意難違.
原裝廢人: 我們不能等因果, 人民現在的反應就是他們的報應.
蜘蛛人: 他的老婆不時在替他鬧笑話, 如果他真聽就糟糕了.
無名: 不用等他的鷹犬, 我們的華人都有說出: 首相來訪如中頭獎這樣不要臉的話.
白頭: 我在想, 那雷電不是很不得空?
沈興: 對啊, 是很邪. 不到你不信.
ANAKMALAYSIA: we must make sure there is a ‘next election’.
康華: 大吉利是. 是政府將亡…國還在.
CINN: 我最擔心的倒不是國陣的人跳槽. 而是民聯上台後仍舊有些零散的馬來主義者示威搞破壞. 執政中央後, 官僚還是舊人啊.
花旗國同胞: 我想, 倒台, 不一定經過選舉, 如果沒有選舉的話….
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
新春团拜是你家的注册专利吗?
是污桶的专利!!!
只有污桶可以用,其他人民不可,
那种嘴脸由1957年开始,到了1969年513事件后,纳鸡父亲拉渣RAZAK上台后,更严重,也越来越多,越来越大....到今天已经是无可救药!!!
那是污桶化马来西亚----MALAYSIA HAS BEEN UMNONIZATION SINCE 1957!
NOW IS THE TIME TO SAY NO, TO KICK OFF THIS KIND OF MINDSET, NO MORE UMNONIZATION IN MALAYSIA, ESPECIALLY IN SABAH AND SARAWAK!
有心人可以写一本论文或大家合力出版发行论文集,谈国家已经被污桶化!!!国家,官方行政全被污桶化,连警方办事也看ATAS,其他教育,大学,合作社等也已经是被污桶化.......一切以污桶为首,唯命是从......这是马国的最大悲哀......
只有全面改变,才有希望!唯一出路----推翻国阵!!!
今年应该放全力谈论与分析"污桶化"之恐怖与悲哀!!!当然包括马华,民政,人联等的边缘化及变成"傀儡"!!!!
马华在国阵里头“当家不当权”:
*《马来西亚华团大选诉求》被逼收回
1999年全国大选的来临,由2千多个华团连署提出《马来西亚华团大选诉求》,内容涵盖政治、经济、文化、教育及社会各领域。大选前国阵接受诉求,大选后却不认账,反指责诉求工委会是共产党。200名巫青团员甚至在雪兰莪中华大会堂示威,抗议华团诉求工委会。
马华的回应:
马华的领袖在当时不但没有给予华团支援,反而落井下石。林良实更促华团诉求工委会收回部分诉求。
*干捞事件
翁诗杰在9月8日提出柔佛州麻属武吉哈逢(Bukit Kepong)华小所得教育部拨款“三万变三千”、“拨款半途遭人‘干捞’”言论,引来教育部长希山慕丁暴跳如雷。副首相纳吉对媒体说,内阁训诫翁诗杰不可越权。
马华的回应:
当时并不见任何马华领袖对教育部长希山慕丁的暴跳如雷和副首相纳吉的内阁训诫,提出反对或抗议, 辩护或追查该事件。更可笑的是当时的高教部长墓屎达化还代老翁道歉,要求希山原谅老翁无知!!!这就是污桶化国家行政与马华等国阵成员党矮化,成为傀儡的明证!老翁被污桶上司"鸟",成为狗熊,但在华人社会又当英雄....很变态的社会,很扭曲人性的国家和社会....
*新经济政策
该政策下的受惠者仅仅是极少数的巫统领袖,广大的马来人及原住民众并没有得到实惠,更遑论其他族群。新经济政策所导致的贫富差距和族群不和。
马华的回应:
至今仍不见任何马华领袖挺身反对新经济政策。
反观,人民公正党提出新经济议程,不根据种族来分配财富,而是根据需要来进行扶弱政策,并强调透明的政府和人民的全权参与。
*华教拨款和华小数量仍然严重不足
2005年3月10 日,马华领袖要求增建华小。4天以后,阿都拉发表“增建华小不利国民团结”论。马华公会领袖近来在争取华社支持的政治论述中,无不强调以更大的“支持力量”换取更大的“代表权”。然而从1995年、1999年到2004年的大选,马华公会获得华社前所未有的寄托,最终的结果却是增建180所小学中,华小只得一所,马华公会领袖的论述因而不攻自破。华小每年才拿到 2% 的发展拨款,国小却可以拿到96%。政府一年增建至少50间国小,增建1间新华小这样困难却需要花上数年时间。
马华的回应:
马华领袖不曾提出“政府须像增建国小一样,制度化地增建华小”。在2008年308大选大败后,马华开始在华文报章提出要制度化,但是污桶,马来报当你吹BB!
*九名非回教徒部长收回提呈给首相的备忘录
在马华总会找黄家定的领导下,9名非回教徒部长提呈备忘录给首相阿都拉。然而,阿都拉没看,这些非巫统部长更被视为挑战首相的权威。
马华的回应:
最终该九名非巫统的部长,包括马华部长被逼收回备忘录。
太多事件证明,国阵是导致国家沦落,人民受迫害的祸根,祸首!
2010年1月26日星期二
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2010之日月潭
在車上用了一個簡單的餐盒,車子開向了下一個目標日月潭,還未到日月潭就先到埔里酒廠稍做休息後再出發~
我們兩對酒類的產品都沒什麼興趣,但也像徵性的買了兩條紹興紅麴香腸,滿足了一下口腹之慾,因為車上的餐盒食在沒什麼好吃的~
這裡的酒廠在一次的大火之後重建,現在已經變成了一個重要的觀光的景點了~
日月潭終於到了~看見了寬闊的日月潭不禁興奮了起來,好久不見了,哇!真的變了好多,在車上就不停的一直拍照,希望記下經過921之後越變越美的她~車子沿著潭邊的公路,慢慢開進港口~
水社碼頭搭船~來到日月潭最好的方法,就是搭船投入湖光山色懷抱中~
潭邊有步道和自行車道,如果有時間的話慢騎鐵馬,享受涼風習習也是一種享受~還有露天咖啡座耶!
行程裡包括了塔遊艇遊湖,上一次來是湖裡游,感受了水流的溫度、潮水動感浮力,和同伴彼此照應著,悠游於湖水中~
而這次是湖上遊是很不一樣的感覺呢~在船上船長還為我們簡單的介紹了日月潭的許多傳說~我想大家都聽很多了不再說明,我比較在意的還是記下這湖面的風景,於是跑到了船的舺板的前面想看清楚這裡美麗的景色~
玄光寺~由玄光寺碼頭下船,緩緩上坡,您會先聞到著名的阿婆茶葉蛋。而沿階上行,可到玄光寺,寺內供奉玄奘大師的金身,寺廟離潭只有十餘公尺,不過我們走錯了方向,所以沒去參觀玄光寺。
這是今年最夯的覽車,覽車的那一頭可以到九族文化村,我們的旅程沒有塔覽車這項,所以只是遠遠的看著覽車,也還好沒去坐覽車,聽說排隊的人潮不輸當年的貓覽呢~
在伊達邵~舊稱德化社,是邵族主要聚集地,有邵族傳統歌舞表演與豐富文物展示,還有琳瑯滿目及洋溢邵族風情的伊達邵商店街,不過因為時間不多怕錯過了上船的時間,沒能好好的逛逛就回到港邊等著坐船回水社了~
這裡終年雨量豐沛,特殊的雲霧山水美景,就算是相同的地點,在不同的季節,時間,山水湖景千奱萬化,令人讚嘆不絕。
天色漸漸暗下來了,許多船隻似乎競相的把握時間,要把客人平安的載回碼頭,結束了這一天的水上活動。這2010年一天一夜的行程也將在下了船再塔上遊車之後就北上回台北囉!
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AVOID SUGAR CANE JUICE
避免饮用新鲜甘蔗水Avoid Drinking Fresh Sugar Cane Juice
请花2分钟来读这篇报道,这是我朋友传给我的,他爸是在新加坡的卫生局工作。
Please take 2 mins to read this. This email was sent by a friend whose father is working with the Ministry of the Environment in S'pore.
健康报道 - 有关甘蔗饮料Health News - About Sugar Cane Drinks朋友的父亲替政府卫生检查工作, 是他把这项信息传开的。他们的工作就是要检查小贩的卫生(包刮食物,环境卫生等等)。他们发现甘蔗水是最不卫生的,它含有超标的细菌。
A friend whose father works for the government health inspection passed on his info.Their job is to inspect all hawkers, their cooked food, their store hygiene, etc.They found sugar cane juice has the highest content of bacteriaamong all food. In fact, it has exceeded the set limit.
从此, 他们必须找出原因。他们去了所有的甘蔗摊子查看小贩们怎么处理甘蔗,洗杯子与及整个过程。可是查不出什么来。
Hence, these guys had to find out why. They went round all sugar cane stores and watched the way the hawkers handledtheir sugar cane, wash their glasses, their entire procedure.But they couldn't find the problem..
有一天,他们逗留直到摊子收摊,结果发现骇人的事实。One day, they stayed till closing time and discovered some shocking facts!
每当摊主在收摊后就会用洗洁剂来洗地板。想想,其余的甘蔗多数是竖立的放在摊子旁边,它的下部肯定是接触到地面。甘蔗是多孔的,可想而知,甘蔗就会吸收所有周边的水。除了肥皂水,小贩们鞋底的污物,猫的尿尿等等,都会被吸收。到了第二天,老板就会拿那些渣成水来卖。
Whenever, the hawkers closed their stores, they would wash the floor with detergent..As we know, the remaining sugar canes will be placed at the back of the store,vertically standing and as sugar canes are very porous, they tend to absorb whatever liquid around them.Besides the soapy water, the dirt on hawkers' boots, cats' urine, etc, will all be absorbed??
看了这篇文章,每当我在小贩中心进食,我都会劝告我的朋友关于甘蔗水的事,我还会停止饮用我最爱的~甘蔗水。
Now, whenever I eat at a hawker centre, I would warn all my friends about thisand of course I stopped drinking my favorite sugar cane juice.
还有一个超爱喝甘蔗水的朋友,她怀孕了, 还时常喝甘蔗水。有一天,她流产了,而且胎儿已经六、七个月。当医生做尸检以找出胎死腹中的原因,医生发现有大量化学物质的痕迹亦出现在猫尿。
A friend, who loved sugar cane juice, was pregnant. She was always drinking sugar cane juice.Anyway, one day she miscarried and the fetus was already like 6 or 7 months old.When the doctors did an autopsy to find out why all of a sudden the fetus had died inside her.They found traces of some chemical substance, which was found in cat urine...Large traces of it.
当它不会对成人构成危害,但对婴孩却是有毒的。更何况胎儿?
While it would not be able to harm adults, it was extremely toxic to babies, what more a fetus?
所以他们尝试确定为何这些猫尿会出现在胎儿。这意味着猫尿被母体吃进并消化了,不是吗?他们得出的最逻辑结论就是小贩把甘蔗放在潮湿且肮脏的地板,而不可能假设杂散的猫尿尿在甘蔗上或其周围。所以,下次你购买最爱的甘蔗水前,想清楚。。。
So they tried to determine how this cat urine thing could have ended up in the fetus.This meant that it had to be digested by the mother, right?And the only logical conclusion they could come up with was that since these sugar cane juice stallholders just leave the canes lying around on the wet and dirty floor,it would not be impossible to think that stray cats could have peed on those sugar canes or near thosesugar canes. So think carefully the next time you order that favorite sugar cane juice!
请转发给所有新马的朋友。一起行动让这世界变得更好及安全,以迎接下一代的到来。。。
Please pass this on to everyone you know in S'pore & M'sia.Let's take action to make this world a better & safer place for all of us & the generations to come
请花2分钟来读这篇报道,这是我朋友传给我的,他爸是在新加坡的卫生局工作。
Please take 2 mins to read this. This email was sent by a friend whose father is working with the Ministry of the Environment in S'pore.
健康报道 - 有关甘蔗饮料Health News - About Sugar Cane Drinks朋友的父亲替政府卫生检查工作, 是他把这项信息传开的。他们的工作就是要检查小贩的卫生(包刮食物,环境卫生等等)。他们发现甘蔗水是最不卫生的,它含有超标的细菌。
A friend whose father works for the government health inspection passed on his info.Their job is to inspect all hawkers, their cooked food, their store hygiene, etc.They found sugar cane juice has the highest content of bacteriaamong all food. In fact, it has exceeded the set limit.
从此, 他们必须找出原因。他们去了所有的甘蔗摊子查看小贩们怎么处理甘蔗,洗杯子与及整个过程。可是查不出什么来。
Hence, these guys had to find out why. They went round all sugar cane stores and watched the way the hawkers handledtheir sugar cane, wash their glasses, their entire procedure.But they couldn't find the problem..
有一天,他们逗留直到摊子收摊,结果发现骇人的事实。One day, they stayed till closing time and discovered some shocking facts!
每当摊主在收摊后就会用洗洁剂来洗地板。想想,其余的甘蔗多数是竖立的放在摊子旁边,它的下部肯定是接触到地面。甘蔗是多孔的,可想而知,甘蔗就会吸收所有周边的水。除了肥皂水,小贩们鞋底的污物,猫的尿尿等等,都会被吸收。到了第二天,老板就会拿那些渣成水来卖。
Whenever, the hawkers closed their stores, they would wash the floor with detergent..As we know, the remaining sugar canes will be placed at the back of the store,vertically standing and as sugar canes are very porous, they tend to absorb whatever liquid around them.Besides the soapy water, the dirt on hawkers' boots, cats' urine, etc, will all be absorbed??
看了这篇文章,每当我在小贩中心进食,我都会劝告我的朋友关于甘蔗水的事,我还会停止饮用我最爱的~甘蔗水。
Now, whenever I eat at a hawker centre, I would warn all my friends about thisand of course I stopped drinking my favorite sugar cane juice.
还有一个超爱喝甘蔗水的朋友,她怀孕了, 还时常喝甘蔗水。有一天,她流产了,而且胎儿已经六、七个月。当医生做尸检以找出胎死腹中的原因,医生发现有大量化学物质的痕迹亦出现在猫尿。
A friend, who loved sugar cane juice, was pregnant. She was always drinking sugar cane juice.Anyway, one day she miscarried and the fetus was already like 6 or 7 months old.When the doctors did an autopsy to find out why all of a sudden the fetus had died inside her.They found traces of some chemical substance, which was found in cat urine...Large traces of it.
当它不会对成人构成危害,但对婴孩却是有毒的。更何况胎儿?
While it would not be able to harm adults, it was extremely toxic to babies, what more a fetus?
所以他们尝试确定为何这些猫尿会出现在胎儿。这意味着猫尿被母体吃进并消化了,不是吗?他们得出的最逻辑结论就是小贩把甘蔗放在潮湿且肮脏的地板,而不可能假设杂散的猫尿尿在甘蔗上或其周围。所以,下次你购买最爱的甘蔗水前,想清楚。。。
So they tried to determine how this cat urine thing could have ended up in the fetus.This meant that it had to be digested by the mother, right?And the only logical conclusion they could come up with was that since these sugar cane juice stallholders just leave the canes lying around on the wet and dirty floor,it would not be impossible to think that stray cats could have peed on those sugar canes or near thosesugar canes. So think carefully the next time you order that favorite sugar cane juice!
请转发给所有新马的朋友。一起行动让这世界变得更好及安全,以迎接下一代的到来。。。
Please pass this on to everyone you know in S'pore & M'sia.Let's take action to make this world a better & safer place for all of us & the generations to come
REAL AND FAKE
Fake Hindu swamis, sanyasis, babas, gurus and godmen thrive in a society which lacks awareness about the true essence of Hindu spirituality. Therefore Hindus and other sections of the society which provide the opportunity and fertile ground for fraudsters to thrive in the name of Hinduism are equally at fault. No fake swami can survive without ignorant and fortune-seeking followers.
The Bhagavad Gita which narrates the essence of Hindu spirituality contains only 700 verses. There are excellent translation and commentary of Bhagavad Gita which cost less than 100 rupees. But majority of the Hindus have no time to read the 700 verses but spend money, energy and time visiting ashrams and spiritual centers of such fake babas and gurus.
If you make this an issue, immediately comes the answer, Bhagavad Gita is hard to digest for common people like us, we are ignorant. It is for the common people that the learned men of yesteryears have translated the Gita into all regional languages. They have provided excellent translations and have interpreted the great dialogue between Arjuna and Krishna into the simplest language.
Is not understanding Gita the real issue? NO
The real issue is that Gita doesn’t talk about methods to become super rich overnight. Neither do Gita have mantras to find treasures hidden underground or to get promotions or provide miracle cure to diseases. Gita also does not recommend pujas to destroy your enemies. And above all Gita does not predict the future.
But the fake swamis and godmen only talk about future, money and predictions, pujas and innumerable homams to cure diseases where medical science has failed. Sadly, this is what many Hindus want to hear.
Daily we get to hear about such fake swamis and their notorious activities – which include rape, amassing wealth through dishonorable means – but this has not deterred many Hindus from approaching fraudsters. But, why?
Both the fake Godmen and his followers are fortune seekers. Godmen is using religion to become rich and conduct other antisocial activities. Followers are fortune seekers who want the help of an outside agency to reach God and bribe God and amass wealth and know future.
Shri Krishna never fought for Arjuna. Arjuna had to do all the fighting in Kurukshetra. The ultimate truth that we have to do our work and no God will come to do it is not still acceptable to many.
A true Sanyasi will never advertise. He/She is like a flower. People reach them following the fragrance. They will not even bother to talk to fortune-seekers. Silence is there best weapon which frustrate most fortune seekers in minutes. They might open up the knowledge treasure to a genuine seeker whom a true Sanyasi will easily identify – just like Ramakrishna identified Vivekananda.
No Sanyasi or Godmen has said anything new that is not found in the Upanishads, Gita, Ramayana, Yoga Vasishta and Mahabharata. All these texts are readily available in the market. Pick any of these Holy Scriptures and read a few pages daily. Soon we will realize the futility of going to such fake gurus.
Hinduism believes in individual self realization and not borrowed or rented or bought self realization. Always remember the Brahman that resides in the most respected guru or spiritual leader also resides in us. The only difference is that we have not bothered to realize it.
If we are falling into the trap of fake Sanyasis and Godmen, it is our fault. And if you find that a swami is fake, never hesitate to report it to the authorities. Such fake swamis and Godmen should not find protection in Hindu religion.
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52 comments:
Anonymous said...
The document is good for people who go to Hindu sanyasis and struggle to understand whether they are true or fake.. How about adding the lists of fake gurus/sanyasis in the BLOG for others to know at first hand information??
July 9, 2008 1:29 AM
Anonymous said...
Ha. You're missing the point. You must detect YOURSELF rather some is true or a faker. Asking someone else's opinion is just giving away your own inner power one more time.So many of the "godmen" just love to slide their hands (and other body parts) all over nearby females when they are along and think no one is looking...I could tell you many tales - even from the Kumbha Mela in Ujjain... so many are just dirty old men in private.You will find God in your OWN heart... all by yourself. For free.
August 1, 2008 2:17 AM
Anonymous said...
yeah i agree but thats doesnt mean that all are fakes many true and good saints are there... wherz good therz bad to in otherwords we should beware of those dirty missionaries who plans to spoil our great hindus saints name,because of these saints their crap work of convertion doesnt work
September 13, 2008 9:41 PM
HOBO said...
Very true. I agree.We all are emotional by heart and we all are some way or other surrounded by some or other problem. These fake people(I do not want to use the word sadhu for fake person) psychologically cheat us and Our fault is that we blindly listen to them without using our mind.Believe in God - The Mantra:)Best-Wishes !!!
September 22, 2008 12:21 PM
dcosta_halo said...
Hi Friends,Thanks for nice views.The real reason i think for going to so called fake people is to avoid thinking and putting efforts in disciplining oneself for quicker gains and get cheated in processes & coming out as bitter not better person at end of transaction with so called fake persons not sadhus, correctly put by one of friend above.Its not the fake people who are solely resposible for ourself being cheated but our own desire to get benefits instantly without work.Personally like verse 1 of chapter 6 which describes a true sanyasi(sadhu) which is:"anshrita karma phala karyam karm karoti yaha,saha sanyasi cha yogi cha na niragni na cha akriyah"2 qualities described of sadhu are:1-engaged in action with an ideal2-not worried about fruits of actionnot one who avoids action , doesnot have fire(agni) or ideal or goal.So lets be alert with our own wishes of avoiding self effort, thinking for quick gains,to prevent being cheated.Manojmanoj.kausal@gmail.com
December 12, 2008 11:38 AM
Anonymous said...
i have studied shastra thoroughly and been very close to many saints and after many years i have come to believe that there really are no such thing as saints or god-people, unless you go very close you will never know and unless you know any "sant" as well as you know yourself we cannot call them sant. grihasthas are more godly any day
February 10, 2009 9:34 PM
Dennis said...
One criterion I use is this. How often is money asked for? One guru told me, "Spiritual Wisdom is never for sale."http://www.aumnamahshivaya.org.in/new1/english/book.html
February 11, 2009 12:49 AM
Anonymous said...
i was very closely invovled with a very famous spiritual organization and like anything else politically indian it is all about power and corrution, this is kalyug guys stay awat from them
February 24, 2009 10:16 PM
Anonymous said...
yes many people have had such experience even from reputed organizations but mostly they are all money hungry people who use shasta for their own benefits and how far they have sunk they do not even know
February 24, 2009 10:18 PM
Anonymous said...
You're right and wrong. So many people seem lost and seek help. So many people dream to become their guide. It's human life.As far as truth is concerned, it's not a problem. Who are we to say that something or someone bad is really bad. You see, even shit (like manure for eg) has its value and work to do. Nobody has never been lost. Moksha cannot be attained, otherwise you may be able to loose it, so it will not be moksha, pure infinity without boundaries.The fish can ponder and ask for advise. The truth is that the fish is the sea. And at the same time it has its own peculiar life to live. false and true is a dichotomy, its more a problem for abrahamic religions, not asian ones.All gurus are jerks, fake as long as you consider these being able to bring you to the moon. They can only show (live) the moon.When you are in truth, you are the truth.Now concerning this process to become conscious to be conscious. Yes, it exists, but it is only an experience, bound in time and space.Now if you want to know how it looks like, imagine..That you jump from an international flight ...without parachute. Or you touch the wires of a high tension pole. or you are on you way to the moon but you are tighten on the outside of the space shuttle.Nobody wxants to die, nor disappear. Its not a human process. So don't worry about fake or true gurus. They are jokers. That's why saainthood is related to laughter. When you are awakened, there is no separation, no division, no problemo.Ananda
March 9, 2009 6:21 AM
Anonymous said...
What is a guru ? A guru is not a man, belonging to a certain fold. A guru can be anything that instructs you. At the difference of abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam), Asian religions are not one size fit all stuff. It’s a private relation between you and God. Life speaks to you in many different ways. It’s up to you to listen and look.A guru can be a dead leaf, or the sunlight on a rose bud. He can be your annoying neighbor, your irritating mother in-law, a dog, a dog drop, anything. It can be a simple word or a thing or a person that has a connection with, that talks to you, at a certain moment. That’s why you can read all religious books without perceiving anything in them. And surprisingly, read a cookbook and find a real answer for you. That’s the beauty of a creative life.Man creates his own problems and then cries. There are no problems in life, only a swirl of energy, continuously unfolding, moving. And you cannot solve a problem. There is no solution for a problem. You have to get a new vision in which you drop the problem and adopt a new way that will be your solution.Man wants to be certain, secure, helped. This denotes his fear and confusion. Man believes he is a poor human being, alone in the universe. Man is full of godliness and in total connection with what is, the manifestation. He is already realized, accepted, dipped in life. The work of a human guru is to dispel his ignorance even if this hurts the follower’s ego. He is there to help him avoid hard stones on the path. A guru is a killer, he has nothing to do with you, (drop that loving image Amma, Sai Baba and Cy, gentle guru stuff from your mind – please, same thing as fake or true guru thing). Nothing to do with money (but what’s wrong with money?) or human desires and vices (but what’s wrong with desires). A guru has his life to live. He goes to bed at night, scratch his ass in the morning, poo, take breakfast, burp, shout or scream, pass urine, etc. He is a normal guy. Why do we want to see him as an alien coming from planet Mars? He has no wings attached to his back and can’t convert rupees into dollars (sorry buddy, choose Euro instead, dollar is a dead donkey).Ananda
March 10, 2009 1:57 AM
Rahul said...
Last two comments from Anonymous are thoughts of wise! Good and evil are two sides of the same coin(Brahman)."To get the real, you must know what is fake"!It is called dance of duality.
March 13, 2009 1:54 AM
Anonymous said...
Very enlightening thoughts-Ananda-u have become our guru for the minute we took to read your deep comments-will like to discuss more with you-i get the impression though that one spiritual path will not be the same if one does not meet a human guru...
March 23, 2009 10:53 PM
Dr. Aman Biswas said...
Which is fake which is true None of or buisness. You so ever is takling about God is a step in your life!!. NEVER THINK Topmost step near roof is only Important. keep on steping the fisrt step was equally important. If you have fear of reaching saints just thinking they may not be true Hey man!! How will you become a discoverer. Well God bless you all in your search towards truth. Your own mind is gateway to hell or heaven!!
April 6, 2009 7:57 PM
Arthur Sanchez said...
Dear Friends,This is the test of genuine sincerity. Those who do not deeply desire God will get what they want. The fake in the name of the Real.Those who truly desire God never fail to get Him.
April 11, 2009 11:29 PM
sujesh said...
So could any of you tell me what Amma and Sai Baba are teaching right or wrong? other words are they real sanyasins or fake?
April 13, 2009 5:13 PM
Satyakama said...
Dear Sujesh,If you truly desire to know whether Amma or Sai Baba are real, then look deep into your own heart. Only there can you find God, the Truth. It really doesn't matter what the objective world says. All that matters is what your divine heart says. Sacrifice is the key to knowledge and knowing is seeing. What are you willing to sacrifice for this knowledge, Sujesh? Do not follow the masses blindly because someone says that they are Gods. Find out the truth for yourself.
April 14, 2009 4:43 AM
SRK4U said...
Look with an unbiased mind, If you are convinced then you can trust them. If these people are for real you will understand or rather feel it. Think rationally and decide. Dont just believe if anybod says anything whether +ve or -ve. Word "guru" means one who removes the darknes. Darkness abt anything - lyf, god or anything at all.
May 14, 2009 5:31 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes,it's true that there are fake swamis.But they are many great gurus too.Just because many are fake,one should not distrust all.The "GURU" or the teacher is regarded highly in hindu religion,even equivalent to GOD.The underlying thought is that it's thru GURU that you know GOD.Like it's been brought out by the writer of this article("abhilash"),a true GURU never tells us how to get better in material life.But,it's seen that those who follow spiritual practices and are rooted in the self,will be provided more that what they ask materially also.The Bhagvad Gita and many books of Hinduism is not as simple as it is made out to be.T understand the essence of these books we really need a learned teacher(At least,I feel I am not intelligent enough to understand what these books say,they do create confusion at times,again I may be totally wrong in what I say)One problem which many of us face is that we keep doubting wether the "GURU" prcaitcies what he preaches.I feel if some one teaches you to do good and if he himself does not follow it,we need not bother.We should do good and not have doubt in the teachings.If a Guru does soemthing wrong,he will have to answer for that.I Just happened to bump into this blog,find it quite interesting and nice.Thanks
May 17, 2009 3:10 PM
Tess said...
Since Atman is within us all-when we read, study, contempate on what we have read-won't the Atman reveal the right path for us to understand Brahman at whatever level we might be in our present state? I wanted to see past Maya and so I did for a time give a far away guru money for advice, but as the cost rose I realized this was not the right thing to do- in the old sense of the guru/student role. But I could be mistaken-because the Vedas say we must preform sacrifices and give gifts (among other things.) What is a sacrifice or gift if money isn't involved in this modern day and age? I have come to understand a false guru as one who would lead us away from knowing there is God within ourselves, and as someone who does not treat his students as if they were already God. The finest example of a true guru was Sri Ramakrishna in my opinion.
May 27, 2009 6:28 AM
Anonymous said...
Many Hindus today believe that by accepting one (or more!) of the swamis who come to the scene like any advertised commercial service/product, they will be able to ensure, 1) a name in society as a good person irrespective of whether they have an unsavoury past record in this regard, 2) they will be able to ensure a front seat in heaven ( balcony if it is a cinema!) after their death through the Guru's efforts, just as we are able to get many things done in this world by bribing the right person for each thing, and 3) if they have much unaccounted money/wealth, the Guru's ashram will serve as a safe place to hide such wealth and ensure reasonable or even very high returns through stock-market operations regularly done by the ashrams (including the Kanchi mutt, which I know for a fact).
June 3, 2009 7:20 PM
sunil rathee said...
Have any one heard about Swami Dyananda , he was the only person who saved Hindu Dharma and its holyness by providing rear vedas to all indians. In 1850 when there were around 2500 panth in India and so many bad works were going on like sati pratha , bal vivah , no education to girls , jati pratha , chua-chut etc, people were converting to other religion because the dase of Hindu dharm i.e. Vedas were not followed anly some literatures of pandits like puranas were followed and people think the brahman as God . That time swami Dyanand remove all those panth and spread the light of vedas all around and saved Vedic Dharma. For Future he make a institute known as Arya Samaj which works a lot for Hindus. They removes alll the bad rituals from hindu dharma. The first school for girls and lower casts was founded by Swami dyanand only.Every sanyasi give comments on the top of How to get God only , No one care about Human Being. After Swami Dyanada death his followers gave a lot of contribution in country independence , His followers like Lala lajpatrai , Bhagat Singh , Pan Prasad Bismil , Chandersekhar Azad , all were Arya samaji's. This time Graet Yog Guru Swami Ramdev is also a follower of Arya samaj and get his all education from Gurukula's which are run by Arya samaj followers. Before Swami Dyanand no one ( a family person) was aware about Yoga. But He and his followers made it.This is the biggest contribution of any Sanyasi ever.
June 12, 2009 4:40 PM
Anonymous said...
Ultimately it all comes back to within us.Fake or not one must be able to use ones judgement ..althugh some donation to upkeep the movement is O.K. Again unless one is on a journey to find -its useless to follow blindly
June 24, 2009 1:14 PM
Ram said...
This is a very good discussion with sensible comments. Modern technology helps us to uncover the bogus and the fakes. For example, night vision cameras have exposed seances with apparitions as being nothing but tricks with mirrors. Nobody does this trick any more since night vision cameras became commonly available. And a slow motion replay of a video camera exposed a so-called sadhu and maharishi who could change dirt in the palm of his hand into a lotus flower. It was nothing more than a sleight of hand that any competent professional magician can perform. My question is this. Are the sadhus and sanyasis all 100% fakes and charlatans, or are there some genuine ones living today? I am certain that you will not find the real ones in the kumbh melas - these events are show pieces for the media and an industry designed to rip off the gullible and rich.So where are the genuine ones? Do they exist? or are we genuinely surrounded by 100% charlatans?If you can name the ones living today who you genuinely believe are the real articles, I will be very happy to look into and report back.
July 15, 2009 11:20 PM
Anonymous said...
hey every saint and guru is not like this.See the ancient gurus you have just heard some of your relative or some family member speaking all this and wrote.Also in hinduism is told about the ego that is devil and the self and soul nedds to be one to defeatit.The ego is not to be destroyed but it dessolves itself when we are one with the divine.Are the gurus fake.You know who is the guru of people who have no guru,its SRI KRISHNA.So you do one thing go and don't even read the GITA as it is told by the ETERNAL MASTER SRI KRISHNA JAGATGURU.It s said that KRISHNAM VANDE JAGAT GURU ok and you tell fake that guus talk about wealth and all that is matrialistic then see the todays guru.The best guru today PARAM PUJYA SRI SRI RAVISHANKAR JI See the holinesss in him.See how he uttered the GITA at the age of four the second verse by himself untaught.You see his things taught then you will understand this thing.You know however you reside in yourself but when in need only GURU'S GRACE helps you.If you are working on something very much its taking too much of your time but with your GURU'S GRACE you won't need to work so long or practice something so longs.You will do a little and GURU'S GRACE will help you throughout.Same in KARMA.KARMA can only be cleared with the help of KNOWLEDGE and this knowledge is not the G.K. you read everyday it's residing inside and that's nothing without GURU'S help.OK.Go and see SRI SRI RAVISHANKARJI'S talks and you will understand what a real GURU is and you will surely get your questions's answer.See how this GURU answers your questions in secons.And atleast continue your work rather than complaining about he GURU'S.You don't have a GURU doesn't mean we also do not have ok good bye jai gurudev.OK i again tell you the meaning of JAI GURUDEV.It means victory to the big mind as big minds thinks of better things and not temporary happiness and materialism and this is the bigger nature and we have to get rid of the smaller mind and nature by saying JAI GURUDEV.Also if you follow fun misery follows you and if you follow knowledge fun follows you.I hope this was a good entertaining lecture for you.Only this much for now JAI GURUDEV good bye
July 24, 2009 4:14 AM
Anonymous said...
I am amazed at the way some swamis charging fee (200-1000 dollars) for a meditation session.In the name of donation to their organisation,they charge enormous amounts from naive followers.One doesn't need so many meditation techniques to realise bliss.Simple awreness of breathing if enuff.
July 24, 2009 6:17 AM
Ravi said...
True godmen are like pearls which are found at the bottom of the ocean, And only garbage floats on top for everyone to see.
August 4, 2009 9:33 PM
Anonymous said...
Who is to decide true or false? How many of us householders are leading good lives? Do we worship? Are we truthful? do we have control over our appetites? And we are ready to criticize our sadhus. the greatest problem of hinduism is this stupid criticisim of our own people. And we run after monks and priests of other religions. Do you know how corrupt they are? Any idea?fools!
September 10, 2009 9:42 PM
ranjithmails said...
I am not sure, if all so called saints and sanyasis today are fake .. though I suspect most are fake ..Hinduism itself says that u need to have a Guru to make spiritual progress .. Right ?? Bhagavad Gita itself says that .. I forget the exact verse ..I have personally felt that -- Fake or not, the effect most so called Gurus have on their devotees is very positive .. I am not sure if the so called famous godmen from South India who are living today(u know who I am talking about, I dont want to mention names here) are genuine or not .. But their devotees are certainly more on the spiritual path than the normal Hindu .. No doubt about it .. I have seen many many ppl who have become so pure at heart after being involved with such Godmen .. They shell out their own money to do charities and help other people( remember its not even just dontaing some money) .. they do bhajans every week .. and they have God on their lips all the time .. Many of them actually try to carry out atleast some of the good teachings of their so called Gurus and change themselves positively both in their thoughts and in their actions.. Irrespective of if the Guru is fake or not, most of their devotees strongle believe that their Guru, who is God himself, is always with them and no harm can happen to them when the Guru is with them .. And when some bad things do happen in their lives(like it will happen in everyones lives), they believe its due to their karma and move on ahead ..Let me clarify I am not the devotee of any living Guru, but I have had the oppurtunity to interact with many of their devotees closely ..Like the saying goesGurur Brahma, Gurur Vishnu, Gurur Devo Maheshwarah, Gurur Saakshaat Parabrahma, Tasmay Shree Guruvay Namaha ..
September 14, 2009 2:06 AM
Anonymous said...
can anyone help me give some media adress and contact number who can expose about fake swamis in hyderabad. I'm in urgent need of the same.
October 1, 2009 4:23 PM
neelkumar said...
Haii dera It's very Useful
October 6, 2009 8:30 AM
Anonymous said...
The article completely rules out a good calibre Guru, rather it preaches that one should seek the scriptures to realize. If that was possible we won't be here. I have read many books multiple times, they mean different things until I experienced somethings under a calibre Guru the scriptures is just a wisdom statement. To give an example, Lord Krishna says at the end of Vishnu Sahasranama ;Yo mam nama sahasrena strotum ichheti pandavah! soham ekena slokena stuteva nasamshayah! Stueva nasamshayah om nama iti!There are thousands names sloka in the sahasrnama, it is difficult to remember them, so many ask this question to him. His reply is very simple, subtle and unambiguous ;Out of the slokas of these thousand names, if one can recite one sloka with no doubt, one can commune with him eternally .... How is this possible ? It is only possible with constant practise of meditation (pick a sloka, mediate on the meaning of it) with devotion for the divine for some time, the mind which is fickle by nature will mend and reach what the heart is looking for. This can be attained only by an assistance of (I repeat) a calibre Guru, it is impossible to reach God without a Guru, even avatara purusha had a Guru and if one has read the scriptures correctly, here is one from Guru Shankaracharya ;Gurur Brahma Gurur Vishnu, Gurur Devo Maheshwarah! Guru sakshat ParaBrahmah tasmai Shree Gureva Namah! When the priest in the temple asks gotra during sankalpa, how many of us know who is being referred ? It is one of the SaptaRishi's (seven priomordial saints) or the lineage from whom we have descended. Every human being have a gotra, the scripture go beyond and tell if one does not have gothra, one can adopt "kashyap" saptharishi. But for spiritual progress one needs a living calibre Guru.Ofcourse there are many fake gurus in this world who are materially motivated, the onus to screen the Guru is on the sincere aspirant to find out if the guru will take from point a to b or is s/he after money or fame.
October 27, 2009 6:25 AM
Arthur said...
Dear Friends,Hello. I do not know why I am putting the following personal comments in this section. I suppose part of developing trust means not knowing everything all the time.Friends, Baba has said that if a devotee has dedicated his/her whole existence to Him, then prayer is no longer needed.Personally, I know I have not fully done so. Do you know why? Because I fear. And why do I fear? Because I do not fully trust Him? And why don't I fully trust Him? Because I do not fully trust myself. This is my weakness.So, even though I continuously affirm that my life is a prayer, I pray. I pray that the Lord makes me a more dependent devotee on Him without fear. I am willing to fully surrender, but I cannot without His grace. The spirit is willing, but the flesh, the mind and brain, are weak.Is this not the same with all other genuine aspirants? Is this not a sign of a saint in the making?
October 31, 2009 11:30 PM
Arthur said...
Dear Friends,Here I am again. I hope you all enjoy my interpretation of the following question and answer quotes.Q: "You are Bhagavan. So you should know when I shall get jnana. Tell me when I shall be a jnani?"A: "If I am Bhagavan there is no one besides the Self - therefore no jnani or ajnani. If otherwise, I am as good as you are and know as much as yourself. Either way I cannot answer your question?"Sri Ramana MaharshiDid Ramana merely shirk the question? Many would say, yes. Why? Because they would think that as an omniscient soul he would know. However, the important word to understand here is the word "cannot". Cannot does not mean know not. Therefore, the important question to ask is: why couldn't Ramana answer the question? The question was fully answered, but not all in words. Let me finish his sentence and then let us see if he shirked the question. "Either way I cannot answer your question" [with absolute accuracy, because the future is not predetermined].Ramana liked to play this game. He would often end a sentence and then allow a receptive spirit to finish it by following the Self. It sounds insane, doesn't it? The joy of this revelation is inexpressible, the Self.Only a jnani can understand a jnani. Arthur
November 2, 2009 8:55 AM
Sundaram said...
Actually, the omnipotent Guru always knows better when to impart knowledge to a deserving disciple. So it is wrong to ask Guru "When will I become Dnyaani". Instead one should focus on Spiritual Practice.
November 3, 2009 8:53 AM
Anonymous said...
can anyone help me give some media adress and contact number who can expose about fake swamis in hyderabad. I'm in urgent need of the same
November 9, 2009 5:14 PM
Anonymous said...
I know of one such fake saint : Dr. Dakshinamurthy Dixit from Kohir. Dixit..very popularly known as "Ayyagaru" is such a person who traps people into his vemonous loop by playing around their weakness, blackmails them emotionally and sentimentally and lures off their wealth. He destroyed many families and seized and grabbed many innocent people properties getting relinquished on his name himself. He even seized Sri Omkareswara Temple of Kohir. In the name of homas, pujas, this person lures people in the form of huge amounts of grains, gold, silver, and many precious ornaments giving the name as "Guru Dakshina". God Shiva and Goddess Parvathi themselves should punish this Dixit to such an extent that he should die a street dog death stoned by people themselves.Atleast this way, other innocent people lives and families will be saved. There can be no doubt that he had even grabbed and occupied the Kohir's Omkareswar temple. I'm a sufferer of this Dixit myself. He smashed my family life in the name of homa and pujas.Please help me in exposing this dixit and give an end to his drama once for all.
November 9, 2009 5:18 PM
Anonymous said...
i completely agree. for me it is AC bhaktivedanta swami prabhupada, a true spiritual soul, only here to serve krishna and spread his name. all those bogus asses, like sai baba (not the one who lived long ago (shedi)) but this other dude who is alive and in a wheelchair or something... that fag... but thank you
November 15, 2009 5:18 AM
Arthur said...
Dear Friends,Hello, again. Here is some food for thought. How irrational is it to call a murderer a Christian?The following article heading is an example of how dumb, deaf and blind the world really is: "Two Egyptian Christians get death sentence for murder."Proclaiming Christianity does make one a Christian nor does it define a Christian. This statement holds good for all religions.You think that there are many fake swamis and gurus in this world, but consider the "billions" of fake disciples professing all sorts of religions. Worldliness attempting to proclaim spirituality is the Great Lie and also the Great Test. This is how God separates the wheat from the chaff, the sheep from the goats, the lions from the sheep.Consider the gatherings of Sai Baba, for example. Do you honestly think that they are mostly all genuine disciples? Superficial kindness and respect is not a genuine consideration. Friends, genuine disciples are nearly as rare as genuine gurus. Seek out both. Unfortunately the reality is is that people want blessings and not Truth. How fortunate then for the ignorant to be in the presence of a real guru. However, a genuine disciple will give up even good fortune for Truth alone.
November 15, 2009 10:11 PM
Arthur said...
Hello, friends.What To Give And What To Take.If one takes, one will be taken from. If one gives, one will be given to. This is the Law. This is Karma.Therefore, one should always strive to give love and take sins. This is how one blesses oneself and cleanses the world. This is what the saints do. This is God's work.
November 25, 2009 9:38 AM
Anonymous said...
‘Taarak Braham’ - the ‘GURU’ (Spiritual Master)Today, the concept of ‘Taarak Braham’, ‘Taarak Braham Kee Mahasambhuti’ & and in taantrik language ‘Maha Kaul’ has gone oblivious. ‘Taarak Braham’ is the only the Spiritual Master – the ‘Adhyaatmik Guru’. “Gurur Brahama, Gurur Vishnu, Gurur Devo Maheshwarah Gurureva Parama Brahama Tasmai Shree Guruvey Namah” signifies that ‘Taarak Braham’ is the only ‘Guru’ and it is Salute for Him. Non other than the ‘Taarak Braham’ is ‘Guru’. ‘Lord Sadashiva’ had appeared in capacity as ‘Taarak Braham’ [the manifestation of Supreme Consciousness in Human Form – the connecting point between Qualified (Sagun) Braham and the Non-Qualified (Nirgun) Braham - the relative world and the pure consciousness] on this earth 7500 years back. Thereafter another ‘Taarak Braham’ who inundated this Earth with His Grace was ‘Lord Krishna’ 3,500 years back in India.
November 25, 2009 4:33 PM
Anonymous said...
(Contd…....1/1 from above)The meaning of the word ‘Mahasambhuti’ is - that ‘biological body /form’ through which the ‘Taarak Braham’ expresses Himself. It is used in the sense as – “Mahasambhuti of Taarak Braham” denotes that the ‘biological body / form’ from which the ‘Taarak Braham’ (the supreme Consciousness) functions / acts. So ‘Lord Sadashiva’ and ‘Lord Krishna’ were the ‘Mahasambhuti’ of ‘Taarak Braham’ in different Eras on this Earth. Their biological bodies were called the ‘Mahasambhuti’ and their soul – ‘Taarak Braham’ which collectively denotes the ‘Supreme Consciousness and the biological body’. It must be understood that ‘Taarak Braham’ is the same Supreme Consciousness - not two or three. The pure Supreme Consciousness when appeared for the FIRST TIME on this Earth 7,500 years back was named as ‘Sadashiva’ and thereafter 3,500 years back, He was named as ‘Shri Krishna’ when He appeared on this Earth for the SECOND TIME. This name was given to Him (Lord Krishna) by one of His worldly (loakik) uncles and sage ‘Ramta Ram Garga Ji’. So the ‘Taarak Braham’ [who is a complete personality and capable of exhausting the unconsumed reactive momenta (Abhukta Sanskara)] is the only ‘SPIRITUAL MASTER / GURU’. (Note:- Reactive Momenta – the accumulated reactions of our actions in potential form – partly accompanied from the past lives and partly the reactions of actions done in the present life). Taarak Braham Kee Jai Thanks
November 26, 2009 11:01 AM
Anonymous said...
‘THE GURU’The word ‘Gu’ means darkness and ‘ru’ to dispel So collectively the words ‘Gu+ru’ denote - that great personality who dispels the darkness. India is a country of spirituality. For the first time, the seed of spirituality sprouted somewhere in ‘Central Asia’- the abode of Aryans. All know, the ‘RIGVEDA’- the first knowledge on spirituality and relative world, ‘was propounded by the Aryans’. The science of spirituality is root cause for the origination of ‘RIGVEDA’. Presently, in Europe there is place by the name ‘RIGA’. So it will not be out of place to mention here that the name ‘RIGA’ has been derived from the Sanskrit word ‘RIK’ thereafter ‘RIG’ – the ‘VEDA’ - that has ‘Rik’ & ‘RICHA’ in plural. So ‘RIGVEDA’ the holy book of oldest spiritual knowledge in India (which was brought to India by the Aryans). The present natives (our overseas brothers) of Europe must understand that they are the offsprings of Caucasians (Aryans)- the ancestors of the Indo-Aryans. From the spirituality point of view, all are the progeny of same cosmic father. Science and anthropology recognize us as ‘Homosapiens’. Be it -Aryans, Mongolians, Austrics, Negroids or Dravidians’ all are the ‘Homosapiens’. The point of our discussion is ‘Aadhyatmik Guru’ the ‘Master of Spirituality’. The word: ‘Taarak Braham’ is a Sanskrit word. In English language, perhaps there is no equivalent terminology for the words ‘Tarak Braham’ , ‘Mahasambhuti’ and ‘Maha Kaul’, etc. . ‘Kaul’ are those who have raised their ‘Kundalini Shakti’ (the Serpentine Force that is lying in a latent state at the lowest ending point of spinal cord) for the spiritual union with ‘Param Shiva’ (seated between the secret point of eyebrows) by dint of their own rigorous efforts / practice. ‘Maha Kaul’ were those who had not only raised their own ‘Kundalini Shakti’ but were rather still are authority over raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of the average spiritual aspirants / practitioners (Aam Adhyatmik Saadhak) by a mere spiritual touch or on oral command. (Mahakaul can raise the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of the animals also) The word ‘Maha Kaul’ is a esoteric (tantrik) language word. So, it is not known by the common people. In Kashmir, Kashmiri Brahmins / Pandits place the title ‘Kaul’ or ‘Kaw’ after their names. So it must be understood that formerly the ancestors of those Pandits / Brahmins were the follower of ‘Kaulachar’ (They were Kaulachari Pandits). ‘Kaulachar’ - the cult of spirituality that has the practice of raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’. ‘Lord Sadashiva’ and ‘Lord Krishna’ were the personalities on this Earth who were authority over raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of the average spiritual aspirants / practitioners by a mere spiritual touch or on a oral command. (Contd…….1/1……. below:-)
November 26, 2009 11:01 AM
Anonymous said...
(Contd…....1/1 from above)The meaning of the word ‘Mahasambhuti’ is - that ‘biological body /form’ through which the ‘Taarak Braham’ expresses Himself. It is used in the sense as – “Mahasambhuti of Taarak Braham” denotes that the ‘biological body / form’ from which the ‘Taarak Braham’ (the supreme Consciousness) functions / acts. So ‘Lord Sadashiva’ and ‘Lord Krishna’ were the ‘Mahasambhuti’ of ‘Taarak Braham’ in different Eras on this Earth. Their biological bodies were called the ‘Mahasambhuti’ and their soul – ‘Taarak Braham’ which collectively denotes the ‘Supreme Consciousness and the biological body’. It must be understood that ‘Taarak Braham’ is the same Supreme Consciousness - not two or three. The pure Supreme Consciousness when appeared for the FIRST TIME on this Earth 7,500 years back was named as ‘Sadashiva’ and thereafter 3,500 years back, He was named as ‘Shri Krishna’ when He appeared on this Earth for the SECOND TIME. This name was given to Him (Lord Krishna) by one of His worldly (loakik) uncles and sage ‘Ramta Ram Garga Ji’. So the ‘Taarak Braham’ [who is a complete personality and capable of exhausting the unconsumed reactive momenta (Abhukta Sanskara)] is the only ‘SPIRITUAL MASTER / GURU’. (Note:- Reactive Momenta – the accumulated reactions of our actions in potential form – partly accompanied from the past lives and partly the reactions of actions done in the present life). Taarak Braham Kee Jai
November 26, 2009 2:00 PM
Arthur said...
Dear Abhilash,Hello. I was wondering where I may add some miscellaneous comments. For example,What are a man's most valuable possessions? Are they properties, such as material wealth? Or are they loved ones, such as family and friends? Neither. A man's most valuable possessions are his thoughts, his "beliefs". I have realized that the hardest things for a person to give up are not his/her properties or even his/her loved ones, but rather, the hardest things for a person to give up are his/her cherished beliefs. A person's identity, existence, depends on it.Overcoming cherished beliefs are his greatest obstacles, because they are his most valuable possessions. A man would rather lose his life with his egoic existence intact, then to give up his attachment to cherished beliefs for fear of losing his identity. He diligently works to be a good somebody in this world instead of a divine nobody.For example, look how the different religions fight to protect their own identities as if their very existence depended on it. It is cherished beliefs that are at the core of their fighting. Is this not so? This is why it so hard to find an ego that is willing to sacrifice everything, especially its own beliefs on all levels of thought, for Truth alone. It is this desire that leads to the highest life and philosophy, the fairest of all God's flowers.
November 28, 2009 8:36 AM
abhilash said...
@ Arthur...you can publish it as article itself...send us your articles and we will publish it say it has been contributed by you....You can also contact me via hindublog@gmail.com
November 28, 2009 8:55 AM
Arthur said...
Hello, friends.I want to thank you, Abhilash, for responding. I will contact you via the gmail address.However, my purpose on this link is to comment on real and fake swamis and gurus. May the following words illuminate minds."Do not judge according to appearances". A deceiver will see deception in another. A lover will see love in another. The self-centered will see self-centeredness in another. Etc., etc. We all see this world and each other according to "our own" mental and spiritual dispositions. For example, I "know" that Sai Baba is God. How do I know? Because I know the truth. I have experienced it. To "believe" in something is merely the first step towards knowing the truth of the belief. One must next seek to experience "subjectively" the belief. Do not build your houses on the grounds of belief, because like sand, the house is not based on a stable foundation.Those who believe in Sai Baba, for instance, are fortunate. But this fortune will be short lived if the believers do not experience the truth. They must desire to know for a fact. The greatest blessing is in knowing and not in merely believing. Knowledge is bliss, is love, in the highest. A believer can be deceived, but not a knower. It is the experience of truth which makes us know that is the basis of real faith. Yes or no?The world's "objective" approach to God is the result of its own ignorance. If this be the truth and nothing but the truth, then who am I?
November 30, 2009 12:34 AM
Hindu said...
Well its true there are fakes around but there are also many genuine ones around as well.So we have to be careful that we don’t just give the impression that all of them are fake..Many times because of the anti Hindu groups involved and their influence in the media they like portraying Hindu holymen as fakes.You will notice the Indian media will go overboard ‘exposing’ of alleged scandals but soon as it turns out to not be true you wont hear a whimper because its better to keep the false rumours alive so people who don’t know the facts keep on believing them.. A good example was the alleged expose of Sathya Sai baba when he was falsely accused of child abuse by some American guy where even a BBC documentary was made over the issue..Few years later this same guy withdrew his case in the US when it turned out that most of his accusations didn’t add up and he was about to be exposed but did the media report that ? Not at all. So we have to be very careful with just giving general statements about Hindu gurus being fake..And at the end of the day who are keeping Hinduism alive to the masses ? The many Hindu swamis and gurus out here working day and night.Of course in-between there are some scammers but that’s in other parts of life as well and you just have to be cautious overall..
December 21, 2009 10:31 PM
itispals said...
A nice discussion. Good to see the various points of view. My belief is that a coin has two sides. So, is Nature.It is we who have classified things as "Good" & "Bad". What is good for me, can appear as bad for others and what is "bad" for others may appear as "good" for me? Isn't this the universal truth.Two Stand Out Sentences:"Shri Krishna never fought for Arjuna. Arjuna had to do all the fighting in Kurukshetra. The ultimate truth that we have to do our work and no God will come to do it is not still acceptable to many.""If we are falling into the trap of fake Sanyasis and Godmen, it is our fault."May be falling in the trap is also a way to realize the Truth :)Arthur's Posts were very much insightful. "What are a man's most valuable possessions? Are they properties, such as material wealth? Or are they loved ones, such as family and friends? Neither. A man's most valuable possessions are his thoughts, his "beliefs"."Finally, Abilash you are doing a great Job. Keep it up.Itispals
January 4, 2010 2:18 PM
TropicalMonkey said...
Talking about Sanyasis -- we might see more fake than real ones. Reason? if they were real, they would have realized the meaninglessness of this materialistic life and wouldn't give a damn for publicity and they might live their life in "their own world" trying to find the truth about this life and teaching their findings to their Shishyas (students)! They don't need publicity or political power for that!My mom used to be a big believer of a "human god". He could bring gold chains etc from thin air! I used to wonder why he differentiates between Gold and other material? (I must admit that these human Gods do a lot of charity work compared to our politicians). Does God really care if you put Gold ornaments on him/her/it? Do you think God uses all that "bribe" you put in collection boxes in various Hindu temples? Who uses all that money? -- Hindus don't have a culture of charity work like (other) religions. So even in modern Hinduism it is all about greed -- for money, publicity and power!
January 13, 2010 11:42 AM
SATVIC said...
A true living Guru, who works hard and travel all over the palces is SRI SRI RAVI SHANKAR. By simple yoga/meditation techniques and knowledge sessions he has helped millions around the world to understand the meaning of life and conduct life in more joyful manner. Art of Living foundation started by Sri Sri has been working in various humanitarian projects like, Education for Underprivilaged, Health to all, Organic farming, Women self healp groups, Alcohal/Drug addiction and many.Sri Sri is a true guru living as per the principles of Sanadhana Dharma
January 14, 2010 6:00 PM
TropicalMonkey said...
This is in response to SATVIC's comments about "Sri sri Ravi Shankar". I certainly agree that Mr Ravi Shankar is doing a great job of trying to help people to lead a happy materialistic life. Not by his classes of breathing techniques (improvised Pranayama), but by the advises he gives about "Art of Living". Luckily he has not (yet) started claiming himself as God. I personally respect him as an individual until he start claiming that he is an incarnation of God. This is his business (for monitory benefits). Nothing wrong in doing that in this materialistic world, if you ask me. I have attended one week class of "Art of Living". It was not free. Nothing can be free in this (materialistic) world. What really moved me was - most of his "devotees" do not understand "Art of Living" even after attending the class. All of them go there just for one reason -- "networking". In addition to this "Art of Networking", all they want to do is some "breathing exercise". Thus Art of Living became synonymous to Breathing Exercise (like SATVIC mentioned in the above post)!!(.. oh well I guess I misunderstood the meaning of "Art of Living", otherwise I would have paid Rs 150,000 to "purchase" a teacher's job in one of "Hindu religion's" college fifteen years ago!! I was too adamant that even though I am also leading a materialistic life, I did not want to go down to their level).Even this materialistic world would have been a much better place if Ravi Shankar could make people understand the real meaning of "Art of Living" (without stressing too much on Pranayama).
January 15, 2010 12
The Bhagavad Gita which narrates the essence of Hindu spirituality contains only 700 verses. There are excellent translation and commentary of Bhagavad Gita which cost less than 100 rupees. But majority of the Hindus have no time to read the 700 verses but spend money, energy and time visiting ashrams and spiritual centers of such fake babas and gurus.
If you make this an issue, immediately comes the answer, Bhagavad Gita is hard to digest for common people like us, we are ignorant. It is for the common people that the learned men of yesteryears have translated the Gita into all regional languages. They have provided excellent translations and have interpreted the great dialogue between Arjuna and Krishna into the simplest language.
Is not understanding Gita the real issue? NO
The real issue is that Gita doesn’t talk about methods to become super rich overnight. Neither do Gita have mantras to find treasures hidden underground or to get promotions or provide miracle cure to diseases. Gita also does not recommend pujas to destroy your enemies. And above all Gita does not predict the future.
But the fake swamis and godmen only talk about future, money and predictions, pujas and innumerable homams to cure diseases where medical science has failed. Sadly, this is what many Hindus want to hear.
Daily we get to hear about such fake swamis and their notorious activities – which include rape, amassing wealth through dishonorable means – but this has not deterred many Hindus from approaching fraudsters. But, why?
Both the fake Godmen and his followers are fortune seekers. Godmen is using religion to become rich and conduct other antisocial activities. Followers are fortune seekers who want the help of an outside agency to reach God and bribe God and amass wealth and know future.
Shri Krishna never fought for Arjuna. Arjuna had to do all the fighting in Kurukshetra. The ultimate truth that we have to do our work and no God will come to do it is not still acceptable to many.
A true Sanyasi will never advertise. He/She is like a flower. People reach them following the fragrance. They will not even bother to talk to fortune-seekers. Silence is there best weapon which frustrate most fortune seekers in minutes. They might open up the knowledge treasure to a genuine seeker whom a true Sanyasi will easily identify – just like Ramakrishna identified Vivekananda.
No Sanyasi or Godmen has said anything new that is not found in the Upanishads, Gita, Ramayana, Yoga Vasishta and Mahabharata. All these texts are readily available in the market. Pick any of these Holy Scriptures and read a few pages daily. Soon we will realize the futility of going to such fake gurus.
Hinduism believes in individual self realization and not borrowed or rented or bought self realization. Always remember the Brahman that resides in the most respected guru or spiritual leader also resides in us. The only difference is that we have not bothered to realize it.
If we are falling into the trap of fake Sanyasis and Godmen, it is our fault. And if you find that a swami is fake, never hesitate to report it to the authorities. Such fake swamis and Godmen should not find protection in Hindu religion.
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52 comments:
Anonymous said...
The document is good for people who go to Hindu sanyasis and struggle to understand whether they are true or fake.. How about adding the lists of fake gurus/sanyasis in the BLOG for others to know at first hand information??
July 9, 2008 1:29 AM
Anonymous said...
Ha. You're missing the point. You must detect YOURSELF rather some is true or a faker. Asking someone else's opinion is just giving away your own inner power one more time.So many of the "godmen" just love to slide their hands (and other body parts) all over nearby females when they are along and think no one is looking...I could tell you many tales - even from the Kumbha Mela in Ujjain... so many are just dirty old men in private.You will find God in your OWN heart... all by yourself. For free.
August 1, 2008 2:17 AM
Anonymous said...
yeah i agree but thats doesnt mean that all are fakes many true and good saints are there... wherz good therz bad to in otherwords we should beware of those dirty missionaries who plans to spoil our great hindus saints name,because of these saints their crap work of convertion doesnt work
September 13, 2008 9:41 PM
HOBO said...
Very true. I agree.We all are emotional by heart and we all are some way or other surrounded by some or other problem. These fake people(I do not want to use the word sadhu for fake person) psychologically cheat us and Our fault is that we blindly listen to them without using our mind.Believe in God - The Mantra:)Best-Wishes !!!
September 22, 2008 12:21 PM
dcosta_halo said...
Hi Friends,Thanks for nice views.The real reason i think for going to so called fake people is to avoid thinking and putting efforts in disciplining oneself for quicker gains and get cheated in processes & coming out as bitter not better person at end of transaction with so called fake persons not sadhus, correctly put by one of friend above.Its not the fake people who are solely resposible for ourself being cheated but our own desire to get benefits instantly without work.Personally like verse 1 of chapter 6 which describes a true sanyasi(sadhu) which is:"anshrita karma phala karyam karm karoti yaha,saha sanyasi cha yogi cha na niragni na cha akriyah"2 qualities described of sadhu are:1-engaged in action with an ideal2-not worried about fruits of actionnot one who avoids action , doesnot have fire(agni) or ideal or goal.So lets be alert with our own wishes of avoiding self effort, thinking for quick gains,to prevent being cheated.Manojmanoj.kausal@gmail.com
December 12, 2008 11:38 AM
Anonymous said...
i have studied shastra thoroughly and been very close to many saints and after many years i have come to believe that there really are no such thing as saints or god-people, unless you go very close you will never know and unless you know any "sant" as well as you know yourself we cannot call them sant. grihasthas are more godly any day
February 10, 2009 9:34 PM
Dennis said...
One criterion I use is this. How often is money asked for? One guru told me, "Spiritual Wisdom is never for sale."http://www.aumnamahshivaya.org.in/new1/english/book.html
February 11, 2009 12:49 AM
Anonymous said...
i was very closely invovled with a very famous spiritual organization and like anything else politically indian it is all about power and corrution, this is kalyug guys stay awat from them
February 24, 2009 10:16 PM
Anonymous said...
yes many people have had such experience even from reputed organizations but mostly they are all money hungry people who use shasta for their own benefits and how far they have sunk they do not even know
February 24, 2009 10:18 PM
Anonymous said...
You're right and wrong. So many people seem lost and seek help. So many people dream to become their guide. It's human life.As far as truth is concerned, it's not a problem. Who are we to say that something or someone bad is really bad. You see, even shit (like manure for eg) has its value and work to do. Nobody has never been lost. Moksha cannot be attained, otherwise you may be able to loose it, so it will not be moksha, pure infinity without boundaries.The fish can ponder and ask for advise. The truth is that the fish is the sea. And at the same time it has its own peculiar life to live. false and true is a dichotomy, its more a problem for abrahamic religions, not asian ones.All gurus are jerks, fake as long as you consider these being able to bring you to the moon. They can only show (live) the moon.When you are in truth, you are the truth.Now concerning this process to become conscious to be conscious. Yes, it exists, but it is only an experience, bound in time and space.Now if you want to know how it looks like, imagine..That you jump from an international flight ...without parachute. Or you touch the wires of a high tension pole. or you are on you way to the moon but you are tighten on the outside of the space shuttle.Nobody wxants to die, nor disappear. Its not a human process. So don't worry about fake or true gurus. They are jokers. That's why saainthood is related to laughter. When you are awakened, there is no separation, no division, no problemo.Ananda
March 9, 2009 6:21 AM
Anonymous said...
What is a guru ? A guru is not a man, belonging to a certain fold. A guru can be anything that instructs you. At the difference of abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam), Asian religions are not one size fit all stuff. It’s a private relation between you and God. Life speaks to you in many different ways. It’s up to you to listen and look.A guru can be a dead leaf, or the sunlight on a rose bud. He can be your annoying neighbor, your irritating mother in-law, a dog, a dog drop, anything. It can be a simple word or a thing or a person that has a connection with, that talks to you, at a certain moment. That’s why you can read all religious books without perceiving anything in them. And surprisingly, read a cookbook and find a real answer for you. That’s the beauty of a creative life.Man creates his own problems and then cries. There are no problems in life, only a swirl of energy, continuously unfolding, moving. And you cannot solve a problem. There is no solution for a problem. You have to get a new vision in which you drop the problem and adopt a new way that will be your solution.Man wants to be certain, secure, helped. This denotes his fear and confusion. Man believes he is a poor human being, alone in the universe. Man is full of godliness and in total connection with what is, the manifestation. He is already realized, accepted, dipped in life. The work of a human guru is to dispel his ignorance even if this hurts the follower’s ego. He is there to help him avoid hard stones on the path. A guru is a killer, he has nothing to do with you, (drop that loving image Amma, Sai Baba and Cy, gentle guru stuff from your mind – please, same thing as fake or true guru thing). Nothing to do with money (but what’s wrong with money?) or human desires and vices (but what’s wrong with desires). A guru has his life to live. He goes to bed at night, scratch his ass in the morning, poo, take breakfast, burp, shout or scream, pass urine, etc. He is a normal guy. Why do we want to see him as an alien coming from planet Mars? He has no wings attached to his back and can’t convert rupees into dollars (sorry buddy, choose Euro instead, dollar is a dead donkey).Ananda
March 10, 2009 1:57 AM
Rahul said...
Last two comments from Anonymous are thoughts of wise! Good and evil are two sides of the same coin(Brahman)."To get the real, you must know what is fake"!It is called dance of duality.
March 13, 2009 1:54 AM
Anonymous said...
Very enlightening thoughts-Ananda-u have become our guru for the minute we took to read your deep comments-will like to discuss more with you-i get the impression though that one spiritual path will not be the same if one does not meet a human guru...
March 23, 2009 10:53 PM
Dr. Aman Biswas said...
Which is fake which is true None of or buisness. You so ever is takling about God is a step in your life!!. NEVER THINK Topmost step near roof is only Important. keep on steping the fisrt step was equally important. If you have fear of reaching saints just thinking they may not be true Hey man!! How will you become a discoverer. Well God bless you all in your search towards truth. Your own mind is gateway to hell or heaven!!
April 6, 2009 7:57 PM
Arthur Sanchez said...
Dear Friends,This is the test of genuine sincerity. Those who do not deeply desire God will get what they want. The fake in the name of the Real.Those who truly desire God never fail to get Him.
April 11, 2009 11:29 PM
sujesh said...
So could any of you tell me what Amma and Sai Baba are teaching right or wrong? other words are they real sanyasins or fake?
April 13, 2009 5:13 PM
Satyakama said...
Dear Sujesh,If you truly desire to know whether Amma or Sai Baba are real, then look deep into your own heart. Only there can you find God, the Truth. It really doesn't matter what the objective world says. All that matters is what your divine heart says. Sacrifice is the key to knowledge and knowing is seeing. What are you willing to sacrifice for this knowledge, Sujesh? Do not follow the masses blindly because someone says that they are Gods. Find out the truth for yourself.
April 14, 2009 4:43 AM
SRK4U said...
Look with an unbiased mind, If you are convinced then you can trust them. If these people are for real you will understand or rather feel it. Think rationally and decide. Dont just believe if anybod says anything whether +ve or -ve. Word "guru" means one who removes the darknes. Darkness abt anything - lyf, god or anything at all.
May 14, 2009 5:31 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes,it's true that there are fake swamis.But they are many great gurus too.Just because many are fake,one should not distrust all.The "GURU" or the teacher is regarded highly in hindu religion,even equivalent to GOD.The underlying thought is that it's thru GURU that you know GOD.Like it's been brought out by the writer of this article("abhilash"),a true GURU never tells us how to get better in material life.But,it's seen that those who follow spiritual practices and are rooted in the self,will be provided more that what they ask materially also.The Bhagvad Gita and many books of Hinduism is not as simple as it is made out to be.T understand the essence of these books we really need a learned teacher(At least,I feel I am not intelligent enough to understand what these books say,they do create confusion at times,again I may be totally wrong in what I say)One problem which many of us face is that we keep doubting wether the "GURU" prcaitcies what he preaches.I feel if some one teaches you to do good and if he himself does not follow it,we need not bother.We should do good and not have doubt in the teachings.If a Guru does soemthing wrong,he will have to answer for that.I Just happened to bump into this blog,find it quite interesting and nice.Thanks
May 17, 2009 3:10 PM
Tess said...
Since Atman is within us all-when we read, study, contempate on what we have read-won't the Atman reveal the right path for us to understand Brahman at whatever level we might be in our present state? I wanted to see past Maya and so I did for a time give a far away guru money for advice, but as the cost rose I realized this was not the right thing to do- in the old sense of the guru/student role. But I could be mistaken-because the Vedas say we must preform sacrifices and give gifts (among other things.) What is a sacrifice or gift if money isn't involved in this modern day and age? I have come to understand a false guru as one who would lead us away from knowing there is God within ourselves, and as someone who does not treat his students as if they were already God. The finest example of a true guru was Sri Ramakrishna in my opinion.
May 27, 2009 6:28 AM
Anonymous said...
Many Hindus today believe that by accepting one (or more!) of the swamis who come to the scene like any advertised commercial service/product, they will be able to ensure, 1) a name in society as a good person irrespective of whether they have an unsavoury past record in this regard, 2) they will be able to ensure a front seat in heaven ( balcony if it is a cinema!) after their death through the Guru's efforts, just as we are able to get many things done in this world by bribing the right person for each thing, and 3) if they have much unaccounted money/wealth, the Guru's ashram will serve as a safe place to hide such wealth and ensure reasonable or even very high returns through stock-market operations regularly done by the ashrams (including the Kanchi mutt, which I know for a fact).
June 3, 2009 7:20 PM
sunil rathee said...
Have any one heard about Swami Dyananda , he was the only person who saved Hindu Dharma and its holyness by providing rear vedas to all indians. In 1850 when there were around 2500 panth in India and so many bad works were going on like sati pratha , bal vivah , no education to girls , jati pratha , chua-chut etc, people were converting to other religion because the dase of Hindu dharm i.e. Vedas were not followed anly some literatures of pandits like puranas were followed and people think the brahman as God . That time swami Dyanand remove all those panth and spread the light of vedas all around and saved Vedic Dharma. For Future he make a institute known as Arya Samaj which works a lot for Hindus. They removes alll the bad rituals from hindu dharma. The first school for girls and lower casts was founded by Swami dyanand only.Every sanyasi give comments on the top of How to get God only , No one care about Human Being. After Swami Dyanada death his followers gave a lot of contribution in country independence , His followers like Lala lajpatrai , Bhagat Singh , Pan Prasad Bismil , Chandersekhar Azad , all were Arya samaji's. This time Graet Yog Guru Swami Ramdev is also a follower of Arya samaj and get his all education from Gurukula's which are run by Arya samaj followers. Before Swami Dyanand no one ( a family person) was aware about Yoga. But He and his followers made it.This is the biggest contribution of any Sanyasi ever.
June 12, 2009 4:40 PM
Anonymous said...
Ultimately it all comes back to within us.Fake or not one must be able to use ones judgement ..althugh some donation to upkeep the movement is O.K. Again unless one is on a journey to find -its useless to follow blindly
June 24, 2009 1:14 PM
Ram said...
This is a very good discussion with sensible comments. Modern technology helps us to uncover the bogus and the fakes. For example, night vision cameras have exposed seances with apparitions as being nothing but tricks with mirrors. Nobody does this trick any more since night vision cameras became commonly available. And a slow motion replay of a video camera exposed a so-called sadhu and maharishi who could change dirt in the palm of his hand into a lotus flower. It was nothing more than a sleight of hand that any competent professional magician can perform. My question is this. Are the sadhus and sanyasis all 100% fakes and charlatans, or are there some genuine ones living today? I am certain that you will not find the real ones in the kumbh melas - these events are show pieces for the media and an industry designed to rip off the gullible and rich.So where are the genuine ones? Do they exist? or are we genuinely surrounded by 100% charlatans?If you can name the ones living today who you genuinely believe are the real articles, I will be very happy to look into and report back.
July 15, 2009 11:20 PM
Anonymous said...
hey every saint and guru is not like this.See the ancient gurus you have just heard some of your relative or some family member speaking all this and wrote.Also in hinduism is told about the ego that is devil and the self and soul nedds to be one to defeatit.The ego is not to be destroyed but it dessolves itself when we are one with the divine.Are the gurus fake.You know who is the guru of people who have no guru,its SRI KRISHNA.So you do one thing go and don't even read the GITA as it is told by the ETERNAL MASTER SRI KRISHNA JAGATGURU.It s said that KRISHNAM VANDE JAGAT GURU ok and you tell fake that guus talk about wealth and all that is matrialistic then see the todays guru.The best guru today PARAM PUJYA SRI SRI RAVISHANKAR JI See the holinesss in him.See how he uttered the GITA at the age of four the second verse by himself untaught.You see his things taught then you will understand this thing.You know however you reside in yourself but when in need only GURU'S GRACE helps you.If you are working on something very much its taking too much of your time but with your GURU'S GRACE you won't need to work so long or practice something so longs.You will do a little and GURU'S GRACE will help you throughout.Same in KARMA.KARMA can only be cleared with the help of KNOWLEDGE and this knowledge is not the G.K. you read everyday it's residing inside and that's nothing without GURU'S help.OK.Go and see SRI SRI RAVISHANKARJI'S talks and you will understand what a real GURU is and you will surely get your questions's answer.See how this GURU answers your questions in secons.And atleast continue your work rather than complaining about he GURU'S.You don't have a GURU doesn't mean we also do not have ok good bye jai gurudev.OK i again tell you the meaning of JAI GURUDEV.It means victory to the big mind as big minds thinks of better things and not temporary happiness and materialism and this is the bigger nature and we have to get rid of the smaller mind and nature by saying JAI GURUDEV.Also if you follow fun misery follows you and if you follow knowledge fun follows you.I hope this was a good entertaining lecture for you.Only this much for now JAI GURUDEV good bye
July 24, 2009 4:14 AM
Anonymous said...
I am amazed at the way some swamis charging fee (200-1000 dollars) for a meditation session.In the name of donation to their organisation,they charge enormous amounts from naive followers.One doesn't need so many meditation techniques to realise bliss.Simple awreness of breathing if enuff.
July 24, 2009 6:17 AM
Ravi said...
True godmen are like pearls which are found at the bottom of the ocean, And only garbage floats on top for everyone to see.
August 4, 2009 9:33 PM
Anonymous said...
Who is to decide true or false? How many of us householders are leading good lives? Do we worship? Are we truthful? do we have control over our appetites? And we are ready to criticize our sadhus. the greatest problem of hinduism is this stupid criticisim of our own people. And we run after monks and priests of other religions. Do you know how corrupt they are? Any idea?fools!
September 10, 2009 9:42 PM
ranjithmails said...
I am not sure, if all so called saints and sanyasis today are fake .. though I suspect most are fake ..Hinduism itself says that u need to have a Guru to make spiritual progress .. Right ?? Bhagavad Gita itself says that .. I forget the exact verse ..I have personally felt that -- Fake or not, the effect most so called Gurus have on their devotees is very positive .. I am not sure if the so called famous godmen from South India who are living today(u know who I am talking about, I dont want to mention names here) are genuine or not .. But their devotees are certainly more on the spiritual path than the normal Hindu .. No doubt about it .. I have seen many many ppl who have become so pure at heart after being involved with such Godmen .. They shell out their own money to do charities and help other people( remember its not even just dontaing some money) .. they do bhajans every week .. and they have God on their lips all the time .. Many of them actually try to carry out atleast some of the good teachings of their so called Gurus and change themselves positively both in their thoughts and in their actions.. Irrespective of if the Guru is fake or not, most of their devotees strongle believe that their Guru, who is God himself, is always with them and no harm can happen to them when the Guru is with them .. And when some bad things do happen in their lives(like it will happen in everyones lives), they believe its due to their karma and move on ahead ..Let me clarify I am not the devotee of any living Guru, but I have had the oppurtunity to interact with many of their devotees closely ..Like the saying goesGurur Brahma, Gurur Vishnu, Gurur Devo Maheshwarah, Gurur Saakshaat Parabrahma, Tasmay Shree Guruvay Namaha ..
September 14, 2009 2:06 AM
Anonymous said...
can anyone help me give some media adress and contact number who can expose about fake swamis in hyderabad. I'm in urgent need of the same.
October 1, 2009 4:23 PM
neelkumar said...
Haii dera It's very Useful
October 6, 2009 8:30 AM
Anonymous said...
The article completely rules out a good calibre Guru, rather it preaches that one should seek the scriptures to realize. If that was possible we won't be here. I have read many books multiple times, they mean different things until I experienced somethings under a calibre Guru the scriptures is just a wisdom statement. To give an example, Lord Krishna says at the end of Vishnu Sahasranama ;Yo mam nama sahasrena strotum ichheti pandavah! soham ekena slokena stuteva nasamshayah! Stueva nasamshayah om nama iti!There are thousands names sloka in the sahasrnama, it is difficult to remember them, so many ask this question to him. His reply is very simple, subtle and unambiguous ;Out of the slokas of these thousand names, if one can recite one sloka with no doubt, one can commune with him eternally .... How is this possible ? It is only possible with constant practise of meditation (pick a sloka, mediate on the meaning of it) with devotion for the divine for some time, the mind which is fickle by nature will mend and reach what the heart is looking for. This can be attained only by an assistance of (I repeat) a calibre Guru, it is impossible to reach God without a Guru, even avatara purusha had a Guru and if one has read the scriptures correctly, here is one from Guru Shankaracharya ;Gurur Brahma Gurur Vishnu, Gurur Devo Maheshwarah! Guru sakshat ParaBrahmah tasmai Shree Gureva Namah! When the priest in the temple asks gotra during sankalpa, how many of us know who is being referred ? It is one of the SaptaRishi's (seven priomordial saints) or the lineage from whom we have descended. Every human being have a gotra, the scripture go beyond and tell if one does not have gothra, one can adopt "kashyap" saptharishi. But for spiritual progress one needs a living calibre Guru.Ofcourse there are many fake gurus in this world who are materially motivated, the onus to screen the Guru is on the sincere aspirant to find out if the guru will take from point a to b or is s/he after money or fame.
October 27, 2009 6:25 AM
Arthur said...
Dear Friends,Hello. I do not know why I am putting the following personal comments in this section. I suppose part of developing trust means not knowing everything all the time.Friends, Baba has said that if a devotee has dedicated his/her whole existence to Him, then prayer is no longer needed.Personally, I know I have not fully done so. Do you know why? Because I fear. And why do I fear? Because I do not fully trust Him? And why don't I fully trust Him? Because I do not fully trust myself. This is my weakness.So, even though I continuously affirm that my life is a prayer, I pray. I pray that the Lord makes me a more dependent devotee on Him without fear. I am willing to fully surrender, but I cannot without His grace. The spirit is willing, but the flesh, the mind and brain, are weak.Is this not the same with all other genuine aspirants? Is this not a sign of a saint in the making?
October 31, 2009 11:30 PM
Arthur said...
Dear Friends,Here I am again. I hope you all enjoy my interpretation of the following question and answer quotes.Q: "You are Bhagavan. So you should know when I shall get jnana. Tell me when I shall be a jnani?"A: "If I am Bhagavan there is no one besides the Self - therefore no jnani or ajnani. If otherwise, I am as good as you are and know as much as yourself. Either way I cannot answer your question?"Sri Ramana MaharshiDid Ramana merely shirk the question? Many would say, yes. Why? Because they would think that as an omniscient soul he would know. However, the important word to understand here is the word "cannot". Cannot does not mean know not. Therefore, the important question to ask is: why couldn't Ramana answer the question? The question was fully answered, but not all in words. Let me finish his sentence and then let us see if he shirked the question. "Either way I cannot answer your question" [with absolute accuracy, because the future is not predetermined].Ramana liked to play this game. He would often end a sentence and then allow a receptive spirit to finish it by following the Self. It sounds insane, doesn't it? The joy of this revelation is inexpressible, the Self.Only a jnani can understand a jnani. Arthur
November 2, 2009 8:55 AM
Sundaram said...
Actually, the omnipotent Guru always knows better when to impart knowledge to a deserving disciple. So it is wrong to ask Guru "When will I become Dnyaani". Instead one should focus on Spiritual Practice.
November 3, 2009 8:53 AM
Anonymous said...
can anyone help me give some media adress and contact number who can expose about fake swamis in hyderabad. I'm in urgent need of the same
November 9, 2009 5:14 PM
Anonymous said...
I know of one such fake saint : Dr. Dakshinamurthy Dixit from Kohir. Dixit..very popularly known as "Ayyagaru" is such a person who traps people into his vemonous loop by playing around their weakness, blackmails them emotionally and sentimentally and lures off their wealth. He destroyed many families and seized and grabbed many innocent people properties getting relinquished on his name himself. He even seized Sri Omkareswara Temple of Kohir. In the name of homas, pujas, this person lures people in the form of huge amounts of grains, gold, silver, and many precious ornaments giving the name as "Guru Dakshina". God Shiva and Goddess Parvathi themselves should punish this Dixit to such an extent that he should die a street dog death stoned by people themselves.Atleast this way, other innocent people lives and families will be saved. There can be no doubt that he had even grabbed and occupied the Kohir's Omkareswar temple. I'm a sufferer of this Dixit myself. He smashed my family life in the name of homa and pujas.Please help me in exposing this dixit and give an end to his drama once for all.
November 9, 2009 5:18 PM
Anonymous said...
i completely agree. for me it is AC bhaktivedanta swami prabhupada, a true spiritual soul, only here to serve krishna and spread his name. all those bogus asses, like sai baba (not the one who lived long ago (shedi)) but this other dude who is alive and in a wheelchair or something... that fag... but thank you
November 15, 2009 5:18 AM
Arthur said...
Dear Friends,Hello, again. Here is some food for thought. How irrational is it to call a murderer a Christian?The following article heading is an example of how dumb, deaf and blind the world really is: "Two Egyptian Christians get death sentence for murder."Proclaiming Christianity does make one a Christian nor does it define a Christian. This statement holds good for all religions.You think that there are many fake swamis and gurus in this world, but consider the "billions" of fake disciples professing all sorts of religions. Worldliness attempting to proclaim spirituality is the Great Lie and also the Great Test. This is how God separates the wheat from the chaff, the sheep from the goats, the lions from the sheep.Consider the gatherings of Sai Baba, for example. Do you honestly think that they are mostly all genuine disciples? Superficial kindness and respect is not a genuine consideration. Friends, genuine disciples are nearly as rare as genuine gurus. Seek out both. Unfortunately the reality is is that people want blessings and not Truth. How fortunate then for the ignorant to be in the presence of a real guru. However, a genuine disciple will give up even good fortune for Truth alone.
November 15, 2009 10:11 PM
Arthur said...
Hello, friends.What To Give And What To Take.If one takes, one will be taken from. If one gives, one will be given to. This is the Law. This is Karma.Therefore, one should always strive to give love and take sins. This is how one blesses oneself and cleanses the world. This is what the saints do. This is God's work.
November 25, 2009 9:38 AM
Anonymous said...
‘Taarak Braham’ - the ‘GURU’ (Spiritual Master)Today, the concept of ‘Taarak Braham’, ‘Taarak Braham Kee Mahasambhuti’ & and in taantrik language ‘Maha Kaul’ has gone oblivious. ‘Taarak Braham’ is the only the Spiritual Master – the ‘Adhyaatmik Guru’. “Gurur Brahama, Gurur Vishnu, Gurur Devo Maheshwarah Gurureva Parama Brahama Tasmai Shree Guruvey Namah” signifies that ‘Taarak Braham’ is the only ‘Guru’ and it is Salute for Him. Non other than the ‘Taarak Braham’ is ‘Guru’. ‘Lord Sadashiva’ had appeared in capacity as ‘Taarak Braham’ [the manifestation of Supreme Consciousness in Human Form – the connecting point between Qualified (Sagun) Braham and the Non-Qualified (Nirgun) Braham - the relative world and the pure consciousness] on this earth 7500 years back. Thereafter another ‘Taarak Braham’ who inundated this Earth with His Grace was ‘Lord Krishna’ 3,500 years back in India.
November 25, 2009 4:33 PM
Anonymous said...
(Contd…....1/1 from above)The meaning of the word ‘Mahasambhuti’ is - that ‘biological body /form’ through which the ‘Taarak Braham’ expresses Himself. It is used in the sense as – “Mahasambhuti of Taarak Braham” denotes that the ‘biological body / form’ from which the ‘Taarak Braham’ (the supreme Consciousness) functions / acts. So ‘Lord Sadashiva’ and ‘Lord Krishna’ were the ‘Mahasambhuti’ of ‘Taarak Braham’ in different Eras on this Earth. Their biological bodies were called the ‘Mahasambhuti’ and their soul – ‘Taarak Braham’ which collectively denotes the ‘Supreme Consciousness and the biological body’. It must be understood that ‘Taarak Braham’ is the same Supreme Consciousness - not two or three. The pure Supreme Consciousness when appeared for the FIRST TIME on this Earth 7,500 years back was named as ‘Sadashiva’ and thereafter 3,500 years back, He was named as ‘Shri Krishna’ when He appeared on this Earth for the SECOND TIME. This name was given to Him (Lord Krishna) by one of His worldly (loakik) uncles and sage ‘Ramta Ram Garga Ji’. So the ‘Taarak Braham’ [who is a complete personality and capable of exhausting the unconsumed reactive momenta (Abhukta Sanskara)] is the only ‘SPIRITUAL MASTER / GURU’. (Note:- Reactive Momenta – the accumulated reactions of our actions in potential form – partly accompanied from the past lives and partly the reactions of actions done in the present life). Taarak Braham Kee Jai Thanks
November 26, 2009 11:01 AM
Anonymous said...
‘THE GURU’The word ‘Gu’ means darkness and ‘ru’ to dispel So collectively the words ‘Gu+ru’ denote - that great personality who dispels the darkness. India is a country of spirituality. For the first time, the seed of spirituality sprouted somewhere in ‘Central Asia’- the abode of Aryans. All know, the ‘RIGVEDA’- the first knowledge on spirituality and relative world, ‘was propounded by the Aryans’. The science of spirituality is root cause for the origination of ‘RIGVEDA’. Presently, in Europe there is place by the name ‘RIGA’. So it will not be out of place to mention here that the name ‘RIGA’ has been derived from the Sanskrit word ‘RIK’ thereafter ‘RIG’ – the ‘VEDA’ - that has ‘Rik’ & ‘RICHA’ in plural. So ‘RIGVEDA’ the holy book of oldest spiritual knowledge in India (which was brought to India by the Aryans). The present natives (our overseas brothers) of Europe must understand that they are the offsprings of Caucasians (Aryans)- the ancestors of the Indo-Aryans. From the spirituality point of view, all are the progeny of same cosmic father. Science and anthropology recognize us as ‘Homosapiens’. Be it -Aryans, Mongolians, Austrics, Negroids or Dravidians’ all are the ‘Homosapiens’. The point of our discussion is ‘Aadhyatmik Guru’ the ‘Master of Spirituality’. The word: ‘Taarak Braham’ is a Sanskrit word. In English language, perhaps there is no equivalent terminology for the words ‘Tarak Braham’ , ‘Mahasambhuti’ and ‘Maha Kaul’, etc. . ‘Kaul’ are those who have raised their ‘Kundalini Shakti’ (the Serpentine Force that is lying in a latent state at the lowest ending point of spinal cord) for the spiritual union with ‘Param Shiva’ (seated between the secret point of eyebrows) by dint of their own rigorous efforts / practice. ‘Maha Kaul’ were those who had not only raised their own ‘Kundalini Shakti’ but were rather still are authority over raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of the average spiritual aspirants / practitioners (Aam Adhyatmik Saadhak) by a mere spiritual touch or on oral command. (Mahakaul can raise the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of the animals also) The word ‘Maha Kaul’ is a esoteric (tantrik) language word. So, it is not known by the common people. In Kashmir, Kashmiri Brahmins / Pandits place the title ‘Kaul’ or ‘Kaw’ after their names. So it must be understood that formerly the ancestors of those Pandits / Brahmins were the follower of ‘Kaulachar’ (They were Kaulachari Pandits). ‘Kaulachar’ - the cult of spirituality that has the practice of raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’. ‘Lord Sadashiva’ and ‘Lord Krishna’ were the personalities on this Earth who were authority over raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of the average spiritual aspirants / practitioners by a mere spiritual touch or on a oral command. (Contd…….1/1……. below:-)
November 26, 2009 11:01 AM
Anonymous said...
(Contd…....1/1 from above)The meaning of the word ‘Mahasambhuti’ is - that ‘biological body /form’ through which the ‘Taarak Braham’ expresses Himself. It is used in the sense as – “Mahasambhuti of Taarak Braham” denotes that the ‘biological body / form’ from which the ‘Taarak Braham’ (the supreme Consciousness) functions / acts. So ‘Lord Sadashiva’ and ‘Lord Krishna’ were the ‘Mahasambhuti’ of ‘Taarak Braham’ in different Eras on this Earth. Their biological bodies were called the ‘Mahasambhuti’ and their soul – ‘Taarak Braham’ which collectively denotes the ‘Supreme Consciousness and the biological body’. It must be understood that ‘Taarak Braham’ is the same Supreme Consciousness - not two or three. The pure Supreme Consciousness when appeared for the FIRST TIME on this Earth 7,500 years back was named as ‘Sadashiva’ and thereafter 3,500 years back, He was named as ‘Shri Krishna’ when He appeared on this Earth for the SECOND TIME. This name was given to Him (Lord Krishna) by one of His worldly (loakik) uncles and sage ‘Ramta Ram Garga Ji’. So the ‘Taarak Braham’ [who is a complete personality and capable of exhausting the unconsumed reactive momenta (Abhukta Sanskara)] is the only ‘SPIRITUAL MASTER / GURU’. (Note:- Reactive Momenta – the accumulated reactions of our actions in potential form – partly accompanied from the past lives and partly the reactions of actions done in the present life). Taarak Braham Kee Jai
November 26, 2009 2:00 PM
Arthur said...
Dear Abhilash,Hello. I was wondering where I may add some miscellaneous comments. For example,What are a man's most valuable possessions? Are they properties, such as material wealth? Or are they loved ones, such as family and friends? Neither. A man's most valuable possessions are his thoughts, his "beliefs". I have realized that the hardest things for a person to give up are not his/her properties or even his/her loved ones, but rather, the hardest things for a person to give up are his/her cherished beliefs. A person's identity, existence, depends on it.Overcoming cherished beliefs are his greatest obstacles, because they are his most valuable possessions. A man would rather lose his life with his egoic existence intact, then to give up his attachment to cherished beliefs for fear of losing his identity. He diligently works to be a good somebody in this world instead of a divine nobody.For example, look how the different religions fight to protect their own identities as if their very existence depended on it. It is cherished beliefs that are at the core of their fighting. Is this not so? This is why it so hard to find an ego that is willing to sacrifice everything, especially its own beliefs on all levels of thought, for Truth alone. It is this desire that leads to the highest life and philosophy, the fairest of all God's flowers.
November 28, 2009 8:36 AM
abhilash said...
@ Arthur...you can publish it as article itself...send us your articles and we will publish it say it has been contributed by you....You can also contact me via hindublog@gmail.com
November 28, 2009 8:55 AM
Arthur said...
Hello, friends.I want to thank you, Abhilash, for responding. I will contact you via the gmail address.However, my purpose on this link is to comment on real and fake swamis and gurus. May the following words illuminate minds."Do not judge according to appearances". A deceiver will see deception in another. A lover will see love in another. The self-centered will see self-centeredness in another. Etc., etc. We all see this world and each other according to "our own" mental and spiritual dispositions. For example, I "know" that Sai Baba is God. How do I know? Because I know the truth. I have experienced it. To "believe" in something is merely the first step towards knowing the truth of the belief. One must next seek to experience "subjectively" the belief. Do not build your houses on the grounds of belief, because like sand, the house is not based on a stable foundation.Those who believe in Sai Baba, for instance, are fortunate. But this fortune will be short lived if the believers do not experience the truth. They must desire to know for a fact. The greatest blessing is in knowing and not in merely believing. Knowledge is bliss, is love, in the highest. A believer can be deceived, but not a knower. It is the experience of truth which makes us know that is the basis of real faith. Yes or no?The world's "objective" approach to God is the result of its own ignorance. If this be the truth and nothing but the truth, then who am I?
November 30, 2009 12:34 AM
Hindu said...
Well its true there are fakes around but there are also many genuine ones around as well.So we have to be careful that we don’t just give the impression that all of them are fake..Many times because of the anti Hindu groups involved and their influence in the media they like portraying Hindu holymen as fakes.You will notice the Indian media will go overboard ‘exposing’ of alleged scandals but soon as it turns out to not be true you wont hear a whimper because its better to keep the false rumours alive so people who don’t know the facts keep on believing them.. A good example was the alleged expose of Sathya Sai baba when he was falsely accused of child abuse by some American guy where even a BBC documentary was made over the issue..Few years later this same guy withdrew his case in the US when it turned out that most of his accusations didn’t add up and he was about to be exposed but did the media report that ? Not at all. So we have to be very careful with just giving general statements about Hindu gurus being fake..And at the end of the day who are keeping Hinduism alive to the masses ? The many Hindu swamis and gurus out here working day and night.Of course in-between there are some scammers but that’s in other parts of life as well and you just have to be cautious overall..
December 21, 2009 10:31 PM
itispals said...
A nice discussion. Good to see the various points of view. My belief is that a coin has two sides. So, is Nature.It is we who have classified things as "Good" & "Bad". What is good for me, can appear as bad for others and what is "bad" for others may appear as "good" for me? Isn't this the universal truth.Two Stand Out Sentences:"Shri Krishna never fought for Arjuna. Arjuna had to do all the fighting in Kurukshetra. The ultimate truth that we have to do our work and no God will come to do it is not still acceptable to many.""If we are falling into the trap of fake Sanyasis and Godmen, it is our fault."May be falling in the trap is also a way to realize the Truth :)Arthur's Posts were very much insightful. "What are a man's most valuable possessions? Are they properties, such as material wealth? Or are they loved ones, such as family and friends? Neither. A man's most valuable possessions are his thoughts, his "beliefs"."Finally, Abilash you are doing a great Job. Keep it up.Itispals
January 4, 2010 2:18 PM
TropicalMonkey said...
Talking about Sanyasis -- we might see more fake than real ones. Reason? if they were real, they would have realized the meaninglessness of this materialistic life and wouldn't give a damn for publicity and they might live their life in "their own world" trying to find the truth about this life and teaching their findings to their Shishyas (students)! They don't need publicity or political power for that!My mom used to be a big believer of a "human god". He could bring gold chains etc from thin air! I used to wonder why he differentiates between Gold and other material? (I must admit that these human Gods do a lot of charity work compared to our politicians). Does God really care if you put Gold ornaments on him/her/it? Do you think God uses all that "bribe" you put in collection boxes in various Hindu temples? Who uses all that money? -- Hindus don't have a culture of charity work like (other) religions. So even in modern Hinduism it is all about greed -- for money, publicity and power!
January 13, 2010 11:42 AM
SATVIC said...
A true living Guru, who works hard and travel all over the palces is SRI SRI RAVI SHANKAR. By simple yoga/meditation techniques and knowledge sessions he has helped millions around the world to understand the meaning of life and conduct life in more joyful manner. Art of Living foundation started by Sri Sri has been working in various humanitarian projects like, Education for Underprivilaged, Health to all, Organic farming, Women self healp groups, Alcohal/Drug addiction and many.Sri Sri is a true guru living as per the principles of Sanadhana Dharma
January 14, 2010 6:00 PM
TropicalMonkey said...
This is in response to SATVIC's comments about "Sri sri Ravi Shankar". I certainly agree that Mr Ravi Shankar is doing a great job of trying to help people to lead a happy materialistic life. Not by his classes of breathing techniques (improvised Pranayama), but by the advises he gives about "Art of Living". Luckily he has not (yet) started claiming himself as God. I personally respect him as an individual until he start claiming that he is an incarnation of God. This is his business (for monitory benefits). Nothing wrong in doing that in this materialistic world, if you ask me. I have attended one week class of "Art of Living". It was not free. Nothing can be free in this (materialistic) world. What really moved me was - most of his "devotees" do not understand "Art of Living" even after attending the class. All of them go there just for one reason -- "networking". In addition to this "Art of Networking", all they want to do is some "breathing exercise". Thus Art of Living became synonymous to Breathing Exercise (like SATVIC mentioned in the above post)!!(.. oh well I guess I misunderstood the meaning of "Art of Living", otherwise I would have paid Rs 150,000 to "purchase" a teacher's job in one of "Hindu religion's" college fifteen years ago!! I was too adamant that even though I am also leading a materialistic life, I did not want to go down to their level).Even this materialistic world would have been a much better place if Ravi Shankar could make people understand the real meaning of "Art of Living" (without stressing too much on Pranayama).
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2010年1月22日星期五
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS AND PEOPLES' POWER.....TIME TO UPGRADE MORE POWER TO RAKYAT AND PUT RAKYAT FIRST NOW..........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One thing for sure, Malaysian Sultans no longer enjoy the power they used to wield!!!
In 1993, the Malaysian parliament, which was then led by Dr Mahathir and his Barisan Nasional ruling coalition colleagues, approved constitutional amendments that stripped the country's nine Sultans of their immunity from the law. Incidentally, the watershed move was sparked by the alleged thrashing of a hockey coach by the Sultan of Johor.
The legislation reduced the Sultans to ceremonial roles. And Malaysian Sultans definitely don't enjoy the same stature as the Thai King, who is widely loved and respected.
From Wikipedia on the Sultan of Johor:A controversial figure in Malaysia, Sultan Iskandar has led a chequered life. Appointed Tunku Mahkota or Crown Prince in 1959, he was dismissed from that post in 1961 by his father after being found guilty of assault in the Malaysian courts and sentenced to imprisonment. However, Sultan Ismail relented on his deathbed and restored Tunku Mahmood Iskandar to the succession ten days before the former died.A keen soldier, Sultan Iskandar was often at loggerheads with the then Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad while he was Sultan of Johor.
However, in 1984, upon election as Yang di-Pertuan Agong, Sultan Iskandar warmed to his Prime Minister and relationships between the two reached dizzying heights when Mahathir was invested with the first class family order of the crown of Johor, a previously unheard of honour for a commoner.While he was Yang di-Pertuan Agong, Sultan Iskandar created further controversy by assaulting a golf caddy. A soldier, the brother of the caddy who was badly injured, subsequently ran amok in Kuala Lumpur causing a security scare. The soldier was later arrested and sent to a mental hospital.
His assault on a hockey coach and teacher, Mr Douglas Gomez (d.1999) sparked a constitutional crisis between the government and the Malay Rulers which culminated in the removal of the legal immunity from prosecution of all the rulers in March 1993.Sultan Iskandar, however, continues to be immune from prosecution for his previous offences as the law which provides for the rulers to be stripped of their legal immunity was not made retroactive.
http://sophiesworld-sophiesworld.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_archive.html
In 1993, the Malaysian parliament, which was then led by Dr Mahathir and his Barisan Nasional ruling coalition colleagues, approved constitutional amendments that stripped the country's nine Sultans of their immunity from the law. Incidentally, the watershed move was sparked by the alleged thrashing of a hockey coach by the Sultan of Johor.
The legislation reduced the Sultans to ceremonial roles. And Malaysian Sultans definitely don't enjoy the same stature as the Thai King, who is widely loved and respected.
From Wikipedia on the Sultan of Johor:A controversial figure in Malaysia, Sultan Iskandar has led a chequered life. Appointed Tunku Mahkota or Crown Prince in 1959, he was dismissed from that post in 1961 by his father after being found guilty of assault in the Malaysian courts and sentenced to imprisonment. However, Sultan Ismail relented on his deathbed and restored Tunku Mahmood Iskandar to the succession ten days before the former died.A keen soldier, Sultan Iskandar was often at loggerheads with the then Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad while he was Sultan of Johor.
However, in 1984, upon election as Yang di-Pertuan Agong, Sultan Iskandar warmed to his Prime Minister and relationships between the two reached dizzying heights when Mahathir was invested with the first class family order of the crown of Johor, a previously unheard of honour for a commoner.While he was Yang di-Pertuan Agong, Sultan Iskandar created further controversy by assaulting a golf caddy. A soldier, the brother of the caddy who was badly injured, subsequently ran amok in Kuala Lumpur causing a security scare. The soldier was later arrested and sent to a mental hospital.
His assault on a hockey coach and teacher, Mr Douglas Gomez (d.1999) sparked a constitutional crisis between the government and the Malay Rulers which culminated in the removal of the legal immunity from prosecution of all the rulers in March 1993.Sultan Iskandar, however, continues to be immune from prosecution for his previous offences as the law which provides for the rulers to be stripped of their legal immunity was not made retroactive.
http://sophiesworld-sophiesworld.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_archive.html
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Wednesday, April 8, 2009
இந்தியா என் தாய்நாடு
குறிப்பு : இளகிய மனம் கொண்டவர்கள் பார்க்கவேண்டாம்.இந்தியா என் தாய்நாடு. இந்தியர் அனைவரும் என் உடன்பிறந்தவர்கள்.என் தாய்த்திருநாட்டை நான் உளமாற நேசிக்கிறேன். வளமும் வேறுபாடும் நிறைந்த அதன் மரபினை எண்ணி இறுப்பூதடைகிறேன். அன்னதன் புகழுக்கேற்ப தகுதியுடைய நன்மகனாய் விளங்க நான் என்றும் முயல்வேன். என்நாட்டிற்கும் என் நாட்டு மக்களுக்கும் என் வந்தனை என்றும் உரியது. என் நாட்டவர் வாழ்வின் நலமும் வளமுமே என் போற்றரும் இன்பம் என்று உளமாற உறுதி கூறுகிறேன்.
இந்தியா என் தாய்நாடு
குறிப்பு : இளகிய மனம் கொண்டவர்கள் பார்க்கவேண்டாம்.இந்தியா என் தாய்நாடு. இந்தியர் அனைவரும் என் உடன்பிறந்தவர்கள்.என் தாய்த்திருநாட்டை நான் உளமாற நேசிக்கிறேன். வளமும் வேறுபாடும் நிறைந்த அதன் மரபினை எண்ணி இறுப்பூதடைகிறேன். அன்னதன் புகழுக்கேற்ப தகுதியுடைய நன்மகனாய் விளங்க நான் என்றும் முயல்வேன். என்நாட்டிற்கும் என் நாட்டு மக்களுக்கும் என் வந்தனை என்றும் உரியது. என் நாட்டவர் வாழ்வின் நலமும் வளமுமே என் போற்றரும் இன்பம் என்று உளமாற உறுதி கூறுகிறேன்.
我不会读,但是照片让我深感不安....
人生真的有很多遗憾.............
国家,还有GOVERNMENT SERVANTS, OR WE SHOULD CALL ALL POLITICIANS, FROM PM, PRIMIER, PRESIDENT, MINISTER, SENATOR, YB-YB, ETC, AND ALL PEGAWAI AS PEOPLES' SERVANT---KAKITANGAN RAKYAT(kAKIYAT) ATAU ORANG MAKAN GAJI RAKYAT(OMAGAYAT)!!!
PLS USE NEW WORDS NOW!!!KAKIYAT AND OMAGAYAT!!!!
BUAT AYAT DENGAN PERKATAAN KAKIYAT ATAU OMAGAYAT, CONTOHNYA:
LEE KUAN YEW IALAH KAKIYAT ATAU OMAGAYAT SINGAPURARA YANG SEPATUTNYA MENYUMBANG DAN BERKHIDMAT UNTUK RAKYAT SERTA BUKAN MENJADIKAN NUSANYA NUSA YANG MEMBISU DAN BAWAH PIMPINAN DIKTATOR.
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